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Author Topic:   Are We Different From Fans of Other Artists??

KyleWilliam posted 05-19-2000 11:47 AM PT (US)
Are we a different breed altogether? I mean, are there fans of other bands that have such a community and a passion? Are people seeing 15 Creed shows a tour? Who in fact plays more than 2-3 nights anywhere but Bruce? Will this community fall apart after the tour, or does the man and his music keep it al going? Just curious . . . your ideas??

Gokart Mozart posted 05-19-2000 12:15 PM PT (US)
Spooky, just thinking the same thought yesterday. My feeling is that fans of other bands tend to be either passionate about the music, or the song writing or the peformer. With Bruce of course it's all three whole is far greater than the sum of the individual parts. It's a spirtual experience right?
It's difficult to imagine anyone feeling as passionately about another band because I know that no other artist evokes emotions in the same way as Mr S and has created songs to which I have to close my eyes when I play them.
Of course I may be biased!
As for keeping this going after the tour - it's essential. IF this is the last tour, I for one am going to have to join a support group or something!!!

Lisabrucefan posted 05-19-2000 12:53 PM PT (US)
I think we are very different from fans of other artists. It's one thing to be "fanatical" about an artist or band while they're HOT - like the way the "kids" felt about Guns and Roses or Nirvana or believe it or not Garth Brooks has a hugh involved fan following. But we're all here for the long haul during the exiciting touring new CD times and the quiet just waiting for something to happen times. Once I found Bruce I knew there would be NO ONE else I would relate to the same way for the rest of my life !!! And unfortunately for me I have practically stopped going to Any other concerts because they are a dissapointment in comparrison. They have to be.
And no fans but Bruce fans, with the notable exception of the now defunct Dead Heads , see multiple shows like Bruce fans do. We don't want to miss one song, one of his expressions, one pelvic thrust (that one's for the ladies ) or we're very dissapointed. I agree with Gokart Mazart - we're in it for the whole experience,the religion of it, the feeling of unity and belonging.
Bruce possess so much POWER. Sometimes I wish he would find a universal cause and mobilize us all as soldiers of change. I know he works on Hunger issues and I know it's not his responsibilty or his job and some might resent it but there are so many of us worldwide and following him we would have so much power.

Miami MArk posted 05-19-2000 03:56 PM PT (US)
I think some can become over indulgent in their adulation. Other bands and groups have the same sort of following's it is just not as publicized. When Bruce goes on tour it becomes an "event". The reason it is so hard to get tickets is because some people who go to see Bruce go just to say they were there. I even feel myself at times get that " well I am going to more shows than you" feeling. I guess the bottom line is I go because it is fun. It makes me feel good, and it makes me feel alive. It DOES NOT make me feel different. Actually there are times when I am on line (outside in the cold/heat not at a pc)that I feel like a lemming. You know, why exactly am I doing this? But you know, phish and Jimmy Buffet and Bob Dylan and The Other Ones, and on and on all sell out. Bruce just happens to have hit a chord in OUR soul. Hell I don't dress different because of Bruce (except for that bandana thing in the 80's), I do not agree with all his causes....but I love when he does She's the One....so I keep going....for the past 25 years I have kept going.

BillsBruce posted 05-19-2000 04:04 PM PT (US)
I pass a lady driving her car on the way to work each day whose license plate reads "MANILOW". Now, are you going to tell her that we're more intense, that we like our guy more than she likes hers?
HELL YES!! :)

tickbitty posted 05-19-2000 05:17 PM PT (US)
That's probably Barry's Mom! :)

Fred posted 05-19-2000 05:54 PM PT (US)
Interesting topic, difficult to answer. I know some Bruce fans that are pretty casual about it. Music means different things to different people; to me it's only life and death.
I have been to several Melissa Etheridge shows(my second fav artist right behind Bruce) and her fans are pretty intense in their feelings for her. That doesn't surprise me because she comes as close as anyone to making me feel how Bruce's music makes me feel.

karen posted 05-19-2000 06:45 PM PT (US)
A lemming, Mark? Is that like a drowned rat? How DO you come up with some of these?
I think it's tough to be objective when defining this fan base. We're talking about something that we feel compares to no other. I've recently talked with fans of Barry Manilow and Ricky Martin, (both are currently touring here) and there's a real passion that exists for them, too. They feel that same sense of community with like minded people. (I know it's hard to believe) I hear comments like "No one does it for me, like he does!" "He's such a prolific songwriter" (Sound familiar?) In that sense they're no different from us, Beauty (along with music appreciation) lies in the eyes (and ears) of the beholder. Of course I like to think that this community will never fall apart, it doesn't wax and wane because of tours or lack of a new record. I think I can speak for all of us that we're never getting off this train? So what if Ricky has more T shirt sales than Bruce!

CosmicKid posted 05-19-2000 07:06 PM PT (US)
As some of you might remember, a few months ago I offered some server space for a questionnaire that my friend Nana wanted us Bruce fans to answer. She got a lot of responses and also interviewed a lot of people in person. Not just Bruce fans, but fans of everybody from Cliff Richard to Aqua. Well, I've had several extremely interesting conversations with her about what she has found out about the various fan groups. And one of the things she says is that Bruce, unlike others, are extremely aware of their own fandom and what it implies. The fact that we're even having this conversation on a fairly high intellectual level is quite unusual. Bruce fans are also very cautious about not going "over the top" and to maintain a life outside the Bruce world. There are probably other aspects, too, that make us special, if not better or worse than other fans. If there's any interest I could get Nana to chime in with her opinion as an outsider who talked to a lot of different fans.

bbb posted 05-19-2000 08:38 PM PT (US)
Sure, every artist(s) has some die-hard fans, but I think there has only been one group that has had a more intense following and (even though I just don't get it and have no interest in them) that is the Grateful Dead.

Miami MArk posted 05-19-2000 09:33 PM PT (US)
Did not want to say it but you are so right. The Deads fan base could not be broken even when they were uuhhhmm....DEAD! I see the same faces at the Other Ones shows that I have been seeing for years at the Dead. And another thing I want to mention is that the Deads following do it without the, lets just say...affluence...that most Springsteen fans have. As for not going over the top, I thought I saw someone above comment about Bruce mobilizing us as an army in a cause. well that US is gonna have to remain YOU!I do not want to fight world hunger, or save the rainforest, or build a mexican releif center. If he wants to use his money to do that ...cool. Once it is out of my pocket and into his....its his. But I am there for the music, that is what it is all about, that is what makes the connection. It is funny, Bruce didn't introduce me to other music, it was other music which brought me to Bruce. So the music will always be the pillar for me. Remember what he said "Blind faith in your leaders...."

brilliantly disguised posted 05-20-2000 04:40 AM PT (US)
Interesting topic--a few ideas come to mind though about devoted fan bases--
for some reason, Jimmy Buffet always sells out around here in like, 30 min. for our 20,000 seat amphitheatre. Same with Phish.
Pearl Jam has a monster following on the road. As does the Dave Matthews band.Dave played 2 sold out shows here last summer that both sold out the day of sale.
When they toured, Pink Floyd was a tough ticket anywhere.And of course, same for the ageless Stones.And probably u2.
Not my taste, but I can first-hand vouch for the followers of Metallica...a buddy of mine is a former roadie of theirs and they too have pilgrims that follow them.
good topic--I think Bruce Tramps are at, or near, the top of any devoted fan list.

Magnus posted 05-20-2000 09:07 AM PT (US)
Karsten, I would love to hear from Nana on this topic (has she gotten to any shows yet at all?)
I would be careful about assuming that we are more diehard a community than that of other artists (or sports teams or other obscure hobbies), but I guess I always assumed that the message of community in Bruce's music perhaps was reflected in the following behind him. I have no idea what the fan commumities of other groups are like, but I hear that the Deadheads are pretty diehard and the fans of Van Morrison are very helpfull and friendly when it comes to tape trading etc.
On one hand there are loads of stories about Bruce fans helping each other out with tix to shows and bootlegs and stuff just out of the kindness of their hearts and because it seemed like the decent thing to do. On the other hand, a example of exactly the opposite kind of thing, is the mysterious exclusive traders who have loads of live and studio material that they don't share with others for some reason beyond my comprehension. I sometimes wonder if these traders are just in it for the money.

tickbitty posted 05-22-2000 02:22 PM PT (US)
affluence?! US? HA - most of the so-called "dead heads" that I know have a lot more money than I do - appearances are deceiving! I still see lots of the "kids" at other shows, allman bros. for example, they drive up in saabs and BMW's and then go beg for "a miracle" free ticket, with their blonde dreadlocks. Puhlease! (not to offend anyone, - sorry)
On the fan base, does anyone have or remember the article from Rolling stone in the mid 80's, that had a center photo and profiles of the different typology of Bruce Fans? If you've got it, post here what issue it was, I'd love to get ahold of it. A guy I went to school with was one of those profiled. I can't remember much about the article but it would be funny to read with 15 more years of perspecctive!

tom wilson posted 05-22-2000 09:52 PM PT (US)
In my opinion the main difference is
Bruce concerts and his music are about his fans as much as about him. Bruce fans are a
community that has a lot of the same beliefs and ideals.

Miami MArk posted 05-22-2000 09:59 PM PT (US)
The cost of a seat in sec 119 row A for opening night was $825.00 this morning. You show me a Dead fan who is affluent enough to pay that. The fact that the scalpers know we CAN pay is as much a driving force in sending the prices up as the fact we WILL pay. Not gonna argue over this, but it is the truth. Sure we are different, much the same way Parrotheads are different. We are different in the SAME way.

brilliantly disguised posted 05-23-2000 05:22 AM PT (US)
Deadheads are more about the style, attitude and...ummm...chemical stimulation than the music. Trust me. I work with some of them. They barely know song lyrics much less what they mean. I have been subjected to hours of the DEAD and some of the boots are so brutal, you would HAVE to be wasted to like them...esp. the 20 minute version of THE NITE THEY DROVE OL DIXIE DOWN that sounds like a time warp...off key, missed notes, OH GOD JUST SHOOT ME...
When I go see any show I want to hear as many differant songs as possible, not 5 songs dragged out 3 hours so I can get a BUZZZZ....Bruce makes us think, rock, and wears us out. And he NEVER does 20 minute cover songs!

Miami MArk posted 05-23-2000 07:52 AM PT (US)
Never does 20 min covers? See: Sweet Soul Music, Quarter to three, Detroit Medley, Mustang Sally, Midnight Hour, Twist and Shout, Little Latin Lupe Lu, Carol, Little Queenie....any and all of which I would pay to see again.

karen posted 05-23-2000 08:42 AM PT (US)
I took a Bruce virgin to her first show last fall, (she was reluctant to pay the $150 for an upper level seat) I just remember that when the lights went on during 'Badlands' she looked at me in disbelief and said, "Oh my God, everybody here is from middle-class white America!" (she didn't know that the Europeans most likely coughed up more $$ to be there too) She said it was at that time, during that song, that she felt like no other music experience she's ever had, She says it was all because of the fans! : )

tickbitty posted 05-23-2000 02:55 PM PT (US)
825$?! I bet there are plenty of Bruce fans not affluent enough to pay that for a ticket either (70$ twice was actually a big chunk of dough for me!) Just as I bet there are quite a number of deadheads who could or would pay it...(a mute anyway point since ol'jer-bear is dead!) Miami you must make some good money buddy! I will give you that a "typical" dead fan, and a "typical" bruce fan, (whatever those might be) probably come from different backgrounds, economic or otherwise.

Sherry Darling posted 05-23-2000 03:12 PM PT (US)
They may cost $825 but can Bruce or his staff DO anything about that? Since they are scalped tickets? NO ONE minds making money. I agree, Miami, that Bruce is quite rich and I also agree that many fans don't like to think of him that way simply because of his persona and his message. I don't have a problem with it myself. The content of his music never changed, he has never stopped meaning it and even the most commerical album, BiTUSA, was consistent with his message and was quality stuff compared to much of what it out there. If he's making tons of cash from it, more power to him, he's done it because of his talent, determination, courage to take risks and some good business moves I'd imagine courtesy of Landau. :) I *would* have a problem with it, though, if he didn't put any of his money where is guitar is, though, and he does. And his music does inspire me to support the causes we agree on; he's said in interviews this is a goal. Sign me up for the army. but I totally respect someone being there just for the music, too.
Sherry Darlin'

tom wilson posted 05-23-2000 08:54 PM PT (US)
Bruce tickets are like Playoff tickets
The real fan sits at home and watches while
some rich prick decides he has to go. The best part is the show is not worth $50 if you
do not get the meaning of it. A real fan can
listen to a bootleg over and over and still be right beside the band

Miami MArk posted 05-23-2000 09:39 PM PT (US)
I did not say I paid that much for the tix!!! Bruce would have to come home and make me dinner for that much! But Tom you gotta admit, the playoffs...at THE GARDEN...c'mon Tom...that CD will wear out before the memories do. ME....I wanna be where the bands are!!!

tom wilson posted 05-23-2000 09:55 PM PT (US)
Mark, the playoffs for our Raptors were no fun at the Garden, maybe next year.
PS I traded my hockey play-off tickets for Bruce, best trade ever made.NJ killed us
Damn New York teams (Yanks too)

Author	Topic: Are We Different From Fans of Other Artists??
KyleWilliam	posted 05-19-2000 11:47 AM PT (US) Are we a different breed altogether? I mean, are there fans of other bands that have such a community and a passion? Are people seeing 15 Creed shows a tour? Who in fact plays more than 2-3 nights anywhere but Bruce? Will this community fall apart after the tour, or does the man and his music keep it al going? Just curious . . . your ideas??
Gokart Mozart	posted 05-19-2000 12:15 PM PT (US) Spooky, just thinking the same thought yesterday. My feeling is that fans of other bands tend to be either passionate about the music, or the song writing or the peformer. With Bruce of course it's all three whole is far greater than the sum of the individual parts. It's a spirtual experience right? It's difficult to imagine anyone feeling as passionately about another band because I know that no other artist evokes emotions in the same way as Mr S and has created songs to which I have to close my eyes when I play them. Of course I may be biased! As for keeping this going after the tour - it's essential. IF this is the last tour, I for one am going to have to join a support group or something!!!
Lisabrucefan	posted 05-19-2000 12:53 PM PT (US) I think we are very different from fans of other artists. It's one thing to be "fanatical" about an artist or band while they're HOT - like the way the "kids" felt about Guns and Roses or Nirvana or believe it or not Garth Brooks has a hugh involved fan following. But we're all here for the long haul during the exiciting touring new CD times and the quiet just waiting for something to happen times. Once I found Bruce I knew there would be NO ONE else I would relate to the same way for the rest of my life !!! And unfortunately for me I have practically stopped going to Any other concerts because they are a dissapointment in comparrison. They have to be. And no fans but Bruce fans, with the notable exception of the now defunct Dead Heads , see multiple shows like Bruce fans do. We don't want to miss one song, one of his expressions, one pelvic thrust (that one's for the ladies ) or we're very dissapointed. I agree with Gokart Mazart - we're in it for the whole experience,the religion of it, the feeling of unity and belonging. Bruce possess so much POWER. Sometimes I wish he would find a universal cause and mobilize us all as soldiers of change. I know he works on Hunger issues and I know it's not his responsibilty or his job and some might resent it but there are so many of us worldwide and following him we would have so much power.
Miami MArk	posted 05-19-2000 03:56 PM PT (US) I think some can become over indulgent in their adulation. Other bands and groups have the same sort of following's it is just not as publicized. When Bruce goes on tour it becomes an "event". The reason it is so hard to get tickets is because some people who go to see Bruce go just to say they were there. I even feel myself at times get that " well I am going to more shows than you" feeling. I guess the bottom line is I go because it is fun. It makes me feel good, and it makes me feel alive. It DOES NOT make me feel different. Actually there are times when I am on line (outside in the cold/heat not at a pc)that I feel like a lemming. You know, why exactly am I doing this? But you know, phish and Jimmy Buffet and Bob Dylan and The Other Ones, and on and on all sell out. Bruce just happens to have hit a chord in OUR soul. Hell I don't dress different because of Bruce (except for that bandana thing in the 80's), I do not agree with all his causes....but I love when he does She's the One....so I keep going....for the past 25 years I have kept going.
BillsBruce	posted 05-19-2000 04:04 PM PT (US) I pass a lady driving her car on the way to work each day whose license plate reads "MANILOW". Now, are you going to tell her that we're more intense, that we like our guy more than she likes hers? HELL YES!! :)
tickbitty	posted 05-19-2000 05:17 PM PT (US) That's probably Barry's Mom! :)
Fred	posted 05-19-2000 05:54 PM PT (US) Interesting topic, difficult to answer. I know some Bruce fans that are pretty casual about it. Music means different things to different people; to me it's only life and death. I have been to several Melissa Etheridge shows(my second fav artist right behind Bruce) and her fans are pretty intense in their feelings for her. That doesn't surprise me because she comes as close as anyone to making me feel how Bruce's music makes me feel.
karen	posted 05-19-2000 06:45 PM PT (US) A lemming, Mark? Is that like a drowned rat? How DO you come up with some of these? I think it's tough to be objective when defining this fan base. We're talking about something that we feel compares to no other. I've recently talked with fans of Barry Manilow and Ricky Martin, (both are currently touring here) and there's a real passion that exists for them, too. They feel that same sense of community with like minded people. (I know it's hard to believe) I hear comments like "No one does it for me, like he does!" "He's such a prolific songwriter" (Sound familiar?) In that sense they're no different from us, Beauty (along with music appreciation) lies in the eyes (and ears) of the beholder. Of course I like to think that this community will never fall apart, it doesn't wax and wane because of tours or lack of a new record. I think I can speak for all of us that we're never getting off this train? So what if Ricky has more T shirt sales than Bruce!
CosmicKid	posted 05-19-2000 07:06 PM PT (US) As some of you might remember, a few months ago I offered some server space for a questionnaire that my friend Nana wanted us Bruce fans to answer. She got a lot of responses and also interviewed a lot of people in person. Not just Bruce fans, but fans of everybody from Cliff Richard to Aqua. Well, I've had several extremely interesting conversations with her about what she has found out about the various fan groups. And one of the things she says is that Bruce, unlike others, are extremely aware of their own fandom and what it implies. The fact that we're even having this conversation on a fairly high intellectual level is quite unusual. Bruce fans are also very cautious about not going "over the top" and to maintain a life outside the Bruce world. There are probably other aspects, too, that make us special, if not better or worse than other fans. If there's any interest I could get Nana to chime in with her opinion as an outsider who talked to a lot of different fans.
bbb	posted 05-19-2000 08:38 PM PT (US) Sure, every artist(s) has some die-hard fans, but I think there has only been one group that has had a more intense following and (even though I just don't get it and have no interest in them) that is the Grateful Dead.
Miami MArk	posted 05-19-2000 09:33 PM PT (US) Did not want to say it but you are so right. The Deads fan base could not be broken even when they were uuhhhmm....DEAD! I see the same faces at the Other Ones shows that I have been seeing for years at the Dead. And another thing I want to mention is that the Deads following do it without the, lets just say...affluence...that most Springsteen fans have. As for not going over the top, I thought I saw someone above comment about Bruce mobilizing us as an army in a cause. well that US is gonna have to remain YOU!I do not want to fight world hunger, or save the rainforest, or build a mexican releif center. If he wants to use his money to do that ...cool. Once it is out of my pocket and into his....its his. But I am there for the music, that is what it is all about, that is what makes the connection. It is funny, Bruce didn't introduce me to other music, it was other music which brought me to Bruce. So the music will always be the pillar for me. Remember what he said "Blind faith in your leaders...."
brilliantly disguised	posted 05-20-2000 04:40 AM PT (US) Interesting topic--a few ideas come to mind though about devoted fan bases-- for some reason, Jimmy Buffet always sells out around here in like, 30 min. for our 20,000 seat amphitheatre. Same with Phish. Pearl Jam has a monster following on the road. As does the Dave Matthews band.Dave played 2 sold out shows here last summer that both sold out the day of sale. When they toured, Pink Floyd was a tough ticket anywhere.And of course, same for the ageless Stones.And probably u2. Not my taste, but I can first-hand vouch for the followers of Metallica...a buddy of mine is a former roadie of theirs and they too have pilgrims that follow them. good topic--I think Bruce Tramps are at, or near, the top of any devoted fan list.
Magnus	posted 05-20-2000 09:07 AM PT (US) Karsten, I would love to hear from Nana on this topic (has she gotten to any shows yet at all?) I would be careful about assuming that we are more diehard a community than that of other artists (or sports teams or other obscure hobbies), but I guess I always assumed that the message of community in Bruce's music perhaps was reflected in the following behind him. I have no idea what the fan commumities of other groups are like, but I hear that the Deadheads are pretty diehard and the fans of Van Morrison are very helpfull and friendly when it comes to tape trading etc. On one hand there are loads of stories about Bruce fans helping each other out with tix to shows and bootlegs and stuff just out of the kindness of their hearts and because it seemed like the decent thing to do. On the other hand, a example of exactly the opposite kind of thing, is the mysterious exclusive traders who have loads of live and studio material that they don't share with others for some reason beyond my comprehension. I sometimes wonder if these traders are just in it for the money.
tickbitty	posted 05-22-2000 02:22 PM PT (US) affluence?! US? HA - most of the so-called "dead heads" that I know have a lot more money than I do - appearances are deceiving! I still see lots of the "kids" at other shows, allman bros. for example, they drive up in saabs and BMW's and then go beg for "a miracle" free ticket, with their blonde dreadlocks. Puhlease! (not to offend anyone, - sorry) On the fan base, does anyone have or remember the article from Rolling stone in the mid 80's, that had a center photo and profiles of the different typology of Bruce Fans? If you've got it, post here what issue it was, I'd love to get ahold of it. A guy I went to school with was one of those profiled. I can't remember much about the article but it would be funny to read with 15 more years of perspecctive!
tom wilson	posted 05-22-2000 09:52 PM PT (US) In my opinion the main difference is Bruce concerts and his music are about his fans as much as about him. Bruce fans are a community that has a lot of the same beliefs and ideals.
Miami MArk	posted 05-22-2000 09:59 PM PT (US) The cost of a seat in sec 119 row A for opening night was $825.00 this morning. You show me a Dead fan who is affluent enough to pay that. The fact that the scalpers know we CAN pay is as much a driving force in sending the prices up as the fact we WILL pay. Not gonna argue over this, but it is the truth. Sure we are different, much the same way Parrotheads are different. We are different in the SAME way.
brilliantly disguised	posted 05-23-2000 05:22 AM PT (US) Deadheads are more about the style, attitude and...ummm...chemical stimulation than the music. Trust me. I work with some of them. They barely know song lyrics much less what they mean. I have been subjected to hours of the DEAD and some of the boots are so brutal, you would HAVE to be wasted to like them...esp. the 20 minute version of THE NITE THEY DROVE OL DIXIE DOWN that sounds like a time warp...off key, missed notes, OH GOD JUST SHOOT ME... When I go see any show I want to hear as many differant songs as possible, not 5 songs dragged out 3 hours so I can get a BUZZZZ....Bruce makes us think, rock, and wears us out. And he NEVER does 20 minute cover songs!
Miami MArk	posted 05-23-2000 07:52 AM PT (US) Never does 20 min covers? See: Sweet Soul Music, Quarter to three, Detroit Medley, Mustang Sally, Midnight Hour, Twist and Shout, Little Latin Lupe Lu, Carol, Little Queenie....any and all of which I would pay to see again.
karen	posted 05-23-2000 08:42 AM PT (US) I took a Bruce virgin to her first show last fall, (she was reluctant to pay the $150 for an upper level seat) I just remember that when the lights went on during 'Badlands' she looked at me in disbelief and said, "Oh my God, everybody here is from middle-class white America!" (she didn't know that the Europeans most likely coughed up more $$ to be there too) She said it was at that time, during that song, that she felt like no other music experience she's ever had, She says it was all because of the fans! : )
tickbitty	posted 05-23-2000 02:55 PM PT (US) 825$?! I bet there are plenty of Bruce fans not affluent enough to pay that for a ticket either (70$ twice was actually a big chunk of dough for me!) Just as I bet there are quite a number of deadheads who could or would pay it...(a mute anyway point since ol'jer-bear is dead!) Miami you must make some good money buddy! I will give you that a "typical" dead fan, and a "typical" bruce fan, (whatever those might be) probably come from different backgrounds, economic or otherwise.
Sherry Darling	posted 05-23-2000 03:12 PM PT (US) They may cost $825 but can Bruce or his staff DO anything about that? Since they are scalped tickets? NO ONE minds making money. I agree, Miami, that Bruce is quite rich and I also agree that many fans don't like to think of him that way simply because of his persona and his message. I don't have a problem with it myself. The content of his music never changed, he has never stopped meaning it and even the most commerical album, BiTUSA, was consistent with his message and was quality stuff compared to much of what it out there. If he's making tons of cash from it, more power to him, he's done it because of his talent, determination, courage to take risks and some good business moves I'd imagine courtesy of Landau. :) I would have a problem with it, though, if he didn't put any of his money where is guitar is, though, and he does. And his music does inspire me to support the causes we agree on; he's said in interviews this is a goal. Sign me up for the army. but I totally respect someone being there just for the music, too. Sherry Darlin'
tom wilson	posted 05-23-2000 08:54 PM PT (US) Bruce tickets are like Playoff tickets The real fan sits at home and watches while some rich prick decides he has to go. The best part is the show is not worth $50 if you do not get the meaning of it. A real fan can listen to a bootleg over and over and still be right beside the band
Miami MArk	posted 05-23-2000 09:39 PM PT (US) I did not say I paid that much for the tix!!! Bruce would have to come home and make me dinner for that much! But Tom you gotta admit, the playoffs...at THE GARDEN...c'mon Tom...that CD will wear out before the memories do. ME....I wanna be where the bands are!!!
tom wilson	posted 05-23-2000 09:55 PM PT (US) Mark, the playoffs for our Raptors were no fun at the Garden, maybe next year. PS I traded my hockey play-off tickets for Bruce, best trade ever made.NJ killed us Damn New York teams (Yanks too)