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  1. I am not much of a podcast girl, but am very much a book girl.

    Despite that, I did listen to every minute of the Renegades podcast and there really aren't any words that cover how profoundly it moved me. 

    Needless to say, I pre-ordered, something else that is out-of-the-ordinary for me these days. If I can't get it from one of my e-libraries, and it's not a reference book, I don't read it.

    On the plus side, this will very much be a reference book for me. And so much more.

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  2. 15 hours ago, Jertucky said:

    I never have either. And for the love of god, I certainly haven’t ever watched an inauguration after party. I’m not a fan of ceremonial stuff or stuffed shirt parties. But I will watch the Bruce performance. Most likely when somebody links it on here. I’m hoping for Janey Needs a Shooter. That seems to a song that pleases everybody.

    The last thing this Inauguration needs is a shooter. 

    Long Walk Home fits the bill for me.

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  3. 10 hours ago, Daisey Jeep said:

    Were the same about of democrats also asked to leave the room ?

    They didn't break into the building. People were applauding that law was restored. (I am sure they were also happy to feel safer.)

    Each ballot is inspected and tabulated by two people, a Democrat and a Republican. There's a sweet story of two of them becoming friends, even in this divisive voting cycle.

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  4. On 11/4/2020 at 11:40 PM, Jimmy James said:

    Thanks Jim, I can never embarrass myself when making a statement that never meant to be anything official. I was watching Penn results last night Trump had a 500k lead in the morning that evaporated when they started reporting the mail ins. That's how I concluded to that comment.

    Jim, can I ask you, do you think Trump's lawsuits useless? 

    Just watched a video from the election center in Detroit where all Republicans were asked to leave the room. And cheers erupted.

    Not all Republicans. Just the ones who entered lawlessly. 

    There are Republicans and Democrats in every single place where there is vote counting.

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  5. On 10/14/2020 at 12:19 PM, Promise61 said:

    Aha!  That makes it at least four old songs on the record, lending weight to my long held theory that he hit the wall quite some time ago.

    Tnx OP for the link.

    Which brings up the philosophical question--what is sadder--a popular 70 year old musician who some perceive as having "hit the wall quite some time ago" or an individual expressing that sentiment posting on the fan page of that musician?

  6. On 10/15/2020 at 8:41 AM, StolenCar66 said:

    He can join his buddy Jon Stewart and Streisand (who also vowed to move from the US in 2016 if Trump won) also and enjoy life without the liberty and freedom he has accumulated on the backs of the working class he will leave behind. No worry, none of these empty "boo hoo, the other guy won, I am moving" threats ever happen. Life is too good and comfortable for these extremely wealthy people, when you have tons of money and plenty of time to comment on those you think need saving from their own independent thought and political choices. (like supporting anything other than Democratic causes)

    It's too easy to say things like that and not take action, throw away lines- just mouthing the political machine he follows and supports. 

    It was, I suspect, said in jest, a throwaway line, as you say.

    Much like, "If (insert name of sports team here) wins, I'll eat my hat."

    Most people don't actually eat their hats.

    Or "If I were ever to get (insert disease name here), I'd kill myself."

    That doesn't mean the disease isn't awful. Just that most people say stuff like this all the time, but it's hard to really make dramatic changes, especially late in life.

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  7. 22 hours ago, Elbow said:

    I was of the same opinion on my first couple of listens. But...I had a couple of beers and played it on YouTube with the lyrics on screen.

    It hit me like a brick. Brucie is speaking to us, his die hard fans, us the people who know him the best, who have been with him for years from dark skies to blue. He is telling how he came to bare his faults and flaws to me. He bowed his head. He dug deep in his soul and signed his name true. And he sent it in a letter to me.

    Brucie often brings me to tears when I listen to his lyrics. I'm bubbling now. Probably the beers but I'm not sure.


    EXACTLY how I feel. 

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  8. 19 hours ago, mariasbed said:

    I realize they are different types of music, but a good song is a good song. Moonlight Motel and Western Stars are great songs, Badlands and Born To Run are great songs, regardless of what genre you put them in.

    Americana is a very loose genre--as a musical term, it began as a hybrid between rock and roll and roots country, but has now become a catch-all phrase.

    I think Western Stars is akin to the music I grew up on and listened to on am radio stations that were called rock and roll radio stations. In the 80's, rock and roll became stratified to what I'd call rock music; it became more segregated and more discriminating (in the worst sense of the word). I heard Glen Campbell, James Brown, Carole King, and the Beatles on oldies stations and I guess that's why I listened to oldies stations a lot in high school and college. I liked the whole gamut. 

    But Bruce was played primarily on rock radio, fm radio. I listened to that, too: I loved Tom Petty, Bob Seger, the Stones, the Beatles, the Who, Fleetwood Mac, and of course, Bruce. But I didn't like art rock or what I thought of as generic rock (Journey, REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, Bad Company, Kansas, etc.). I didn't listen to rock radio solely. Too limiting. (But I couldn't have articulated why or what was happening. That has been a more recent realization.)

    Sorry to digress, but I think it's musically incorrect to remove Western Stars from this new song. They are united in many ways.

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  9. 3 hours ago, Appleorchard253 said:

    I’ve been scratching my head over this one too. The full lyric is “‘neath a crowd of mongrel trees I pulled that bothersome thread.”

    Take this with a few heaps of salt: I see Bruce as setting the stage for where he wrote the letter. The focus is on him and his experience writing the letter. Trees in general provide a respite from the hot sun, a place to sit and rest and reflect, a being that provides us nourishment (as in fruit for us to eat as well as oxygen to breathe), and of course the knowledge of Good and evil and the Fall of Man. These are the themes of course he explores and he lives to explore the ambivalence in those things. Work and love, for example,  give us life also bring us pain and hurt (think “Factory”)

    I read this line not as Bruce sitting under one “mongrel” tree, but under many different kinds of trees, possibly on many occasions writing many different letters (hence the “crowd”). Sometimes those trees bring nourishment and sometimes they bring the fall of man. In either case, he’s pulling the thread and finding it’s all interwoven.

    In this case, you might argue that the “crowd” is mongrel and not the tree. Probably. There’s a literary device known as a “transferred epithet” where an adjective qualifies one noun, but its sense really belongs with another. We do this all the time without thinking too much about it. A common example people give is “he spent many a restless night...” it’s not the night that’s restless, it’s the person who is restless. 

    As I read “the letter,” what he means is his whole body of work. Its actually multiple letters, which require multiple trees. 

    I’ll also note the term “crowd,” which is a strange term to describe trees. I’d expect him to say “canopy” or forest or, if he were feeling really pretentious, a bluff or a copse. Bruce thinks in terms of the “crowd” though, and the trees become an audience for him to bear witness to the experience of writing the letter. The song then becomes a kind of performance itself. Bruce performs the act of writing for a crowd of trees, and what he’s writing are his songs, which he performs for us. And this song brings the two together: the writing of the letter will be itself a performance when, God willing, we get to see him perform this live on tour.

    Or...something else. It wouldn’t be the first time one of my wild interpretations of something has been way, way off. 


    I was thinking it was also self-referential. Mongrel nymphs are now mongrel trees. In the Broadway show, he talks about a particular tree that was his solace. "If he were a mystic," one of his inspirations is now rooted in nature, specifically the nature surrounding him in his home. He never knows which particular tree will make him feel rooted, a part of the ongoing link with the universe. But he also still identifies as a mongrel, not a purebred. 


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  10. 53 minutes ago, Promise61 said:

    High Hopes? Cohesion?

    I wrote "usually."

    My sense of this album is that will have a unifying thread. Assuming that there will be some political matter (whether specific or more broad), based on this song alone, I think integrity, honesty, truth, and ethics will be themes, overt or subtle.

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  11. 30 minutes ago, Seebab said:

    Yes, I would have to agree with this but definitely looking forward to the rest of the album.  

    Because this is a single and not the album, we are listening to it in that context--but Bruce is usually an album guy, aiming for cohesion. It will be interesting to hear it within the context of the album. 

    Which I am also looking forward to doing :)

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  12. 1 hour ago, Jimmy James said:

    OK, after my third listen, it's really good. Unless I've just been that deprived for that long. I love it. 

    Now bring on the Thousand Guitars. 

    It also took me a few listens to really like it. Every time I hear it, I like it more.

    I hear the Byrds, but also the Heartbreakers as someone said earlier. (But then, Petty was very Byrds-influenced.)

    I also hear echoes of Western Stars, but it seems to me that Western Stars was different personas Bruce was sharing, they were him, but also not him.

    This is him. Intimately talking to us.

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