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  1. 3 hours ago, Skin2Skin said:

    Any way you could cut and paste that article? I've got no freebies left and I'm yearning to read it.

    I want to read more of Roth's work. I'm committed to reading Portnoy's Complaint this year. I've read the book of short stories, Goodbye Columbus, numerous times, and also The Philip Roth Reader.

    So many books to read. I can never die.

    Read Portnoy soon, it really is as great as they say. I've read it several times over the years. I think you'd get a lot out of American Pastoral, a very different Roth, and I think that's one of his strengths, he was so flexible. 

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  2. As Ann says, I recommended it, and will do to anyone. It remains one of my favourites, I bought it when it came out. So many of the other interviews are great too. Bruce's thoughts on religion are interesting, and not something he'd really talked much about before. (First edition hardback doesn't have Bruce's interview as he was too busy to do it. He read the first edition and contacted Flanagan to say he'd like to be involved in the paperback). The interview is post BITUSA but it seems either after the writing of TOL or during it. 

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  3. 4 minutes ago, DryBonesLive said:

    Well ... Mr Calvary as you mentioned me as turning you into an internet star... for spotting you on broadway !... outside the show, I have finally signed up to the lake.

    Great review by the way.

    I have only been 'loitering' for over 10 years on the forum.

    Please be nice to me everyone. 


    Haha! Good day to you Mr DryBones, I'm glad you took the step. Be careful of the Shark, other than that you should be fine. 

  4. On 23/01/2018 at 3:28 AM, BillyB said:

    Watched 'The Verdict' for the first time in years recently.  I had forgotten how great this flick is...great performances all around, especially the late great Mr. Newman.

    Absolutely. One of my favourites. Lumet and Newman are both really missed by me and I'm sure many others. Both had much bigger hits, I know, but there's a humanity in this film that you don't see in many. 

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  5. 11 minutes ago, J said:

    Dylan once said something along the lines of (and I'm paraphrasing here): "My songs are about what the listener thinks they're about". 

    Of course, this is true. The audience has its own interpretive input. However I think what the OP is about is about looking at what the intention of the writer is. Or at least, what was at the forefront of the writer's mind. 

    This reminds me again of the Elvis Costello story about getting a letter thanking him for his lovely song about a boat trip - Shipbuilding - as he said, they're entitled to that interpretation, but no, that's not what I intended. 

    The "white lines" as coke interpretation, is so outside of the scope of the song, and Bruce's overall thematic concerns, that it makes it unlikely that that is what he intended. That a listener might read it as that is something else entirely. 

    My mate, David, years ago, heard Streets of Philadelphia, when he was an addict, and believed it was speaking to him, about his drug addiction, and of course it was. Even though we know that the specific remit of the song, was to give voice to someone with AIDS. Of course Bruce left it so open, that it could be about pretty much any existential crisis a person is having. 

    Thats not the case with GB. There are so many specifics. But if course a listener can make their own reading. However the listener cannot then say, refardoess of all evidence, my personal reading is correct, and expect to go unchallenged. 

    So, for example, the line is "countin white lines and getting stoned". I read above that because Bruce ha previously referred to hard drug use in a scalped version of Shut Out The Lights, it makes this a likely reading here. By a stronger extension, we could say that "white lines" is about him getting coked up, and the phrase @getting stoned", is a religious reference, to biblical stoning for transgressions within Stone Age society. Bruce has made much of biblical references over the years, so, that box is ticked. Class a drugs are illegal, so this is a transgression, so we all must accept that my reading, that this man is doing lines of sniff and then being punished by his peers, through the barbaric act of stoning, is correct. 

    Either that or we go with the more plausible, given the context, reading. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, TheBoss said:

    To me it was always about him out on his bike alone counting the white lines on the highway (driving long distances to kill time) and getting stoned by smoking marijuana.

    Agree. It's "countin' white lines AND gettin' stoned." Its a song about a biker. Were he to be "snortin'" or sniffin'" white lines, it'd be a no brainier, but would then detract from the verse, because he's just getting off his face, he's not riding. The line as it's best understood now, is that he's riding his machine and getting stoned. It also fits far better into the grand arc of themeatic Bruce. Another traveller. This one riding into a monotonous nothing. 

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  7. 6 hours ago, TheBoss said:

    To be fair, he said he "read and enjoyed" his autobiography. He didn't say he admires him. But it's cool anyway. But even cooler is that last years Nobel Laureate in literature ("Nobel Prize Winner") Kazuo Ishiguro mentioned him in is Nobel lecture: " Over the years, specific aspects of my writing have been influenced by, among others, Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, Emmylou Harris, Ray Charles, Bruce Springsteen, Gillian Welch and my friend and collaborator Stacey Kent. Catching something in their voices, I've said to myself: 'Ah yes, that's it. That's what I need to capture in that scene. Something very close to that.' Often it's an emotion I can't quite put into words, but there it is, in the singer's voice, and now I've been given something to aim for."

    Nobel Lecture

    In an interview a few years ago, it was mentioned that Bruce is a Roth fan, Roth said it was very flattering, and that he got why, given the NJ links, and that he admired Bruce. 

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  8. Just now, Paolo's Circus Story said:

    I'm listening now just to remind myself of which particular moments he stretches the notes out, and it's in the way he sings "you can't start at a fire", "this gun's for hire" and "there's something happening somewhere."

    Fucking essence. 

    I've not listened to the October show, butyes, those held notes were great, and are great on the boot. 

    Like Kay, I want to try to find a way back. It's just like nothing that I've experienced. The boot tells only part of the story. All senses were working with this show. Everything added. 

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  9. 1 minute ago, bobfan1976 said:

    I'm not really a fan of Bruce's latter day singing, which is why I don't really listen to anything live post-2012. I didn't enjoy the Rome 2013 release and the free River Tour 2016 release the tempos of the songs just sounded painfully slow, and the power of the vocals no longer there. I hear pretty much the same on any of the clips from Broadway I've listened to. I release Bruce is pushing seventy, and only human, so a lack of range is to be expected but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. If you attended, and enjoyed it, great.

    I don't think there's a lack of range really. Certainly the elasticity has lessened, but he's able to chart the octaves pretty well still. The falsetto was still present during the River 2016. It's not there during the Broadway show. But it's worth listening to Land of Hope and Dreams, if you want a reminder of just how strong he's singing. Towards the end, he went into overdrive. My friend from Brooklyn turned to me and said "my god, this is the best". He must have been at least Bruce's age. I'm guessing he is a long haul guy. He was stunned. I turned to Kay and the tears were flowing. His voice absolutely filled the venue. And it was deep, and reasonannt. 

    His singing off mic was as loud and effortless as it had been in '96. There was more of it too. You can hear it on the boot. 

    Id say give it a go my friend. 


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  10. 1 hour ago, Silvia said:

    I think you should plant s tree, a mountain ash, of course.

    Watch it grow, as a proof of how good eventually does conquer evil..

    In summer time, you should lie underneath its shadow and read books, or even better, write them.

    PS: This is the second time I cried reading a post here. The first time was JF's story about his Mother.

    My tree is still alive. It had leaves and blossom and berries last year. I'm going to take some cuttings of it this year coming. Plant them. That way the tree never dies. I wish Bruce could have had that chance. 

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