unclejosh

Prove It 78 over everything else with personal favorite being Winterland 1. The longer the tour went on the longer the song was in general which means more of Bruce's screaming guitars. Can anyone give me specific examples of Steve's solos. I have a hard time telling who does what without video evidence and I don't watch a lot of video footage. In fact I am ashamed to admit that for years when I was much younger, me and a buddy raved about the Prove It Intro and Solo thinking it was Steve. We thought stupidly that Steve was the lead guitar player and Bruce was rhythm so of course Steve played the solos. We hadn't seen them live or any video of them live at that point. Looking back it seems so foolish but at the time it seemed totally logical.

On Hoffman's someone posted the DR values and they are bad. DR7 which is the worst for an Altschiller mastering I have ever seen. Terrible as it looked like he had a more sensible hand than Adam but guess not.

I don't want to crap on this release as I am sure it is a fine show but is anyone else a touch disappointed?

My top five. Probably didn't change much. I am basing on both sound quality and how much I listen to tracks from them when they come up in my shuffle rotation. 1. Passaic 9/20/78 - Still the gold standard for the archive series 2. Tempe 11/5/80 -BluRay Rip plus HD files of the songs from Nugs. The best sounding official release by Bruce bar none in my opinion. 3. LA 9/27/85 - I prefer the sound and feel of this show to the 84 shows personally. 4. Nassau 12/31/80 - The remix is miles ahead of the original version. The mastering could be improved and if so it would move up my list to #3. 5. Helsinki 06/06/03 - I love the mix of this. Very detailed and excellent separation.

Bleh

Western Stars was DR 7. I haven't listened to it as it doesn't interest me but here are the numbers. I will say that DR number is not the be all end all and 2 recordings with the exact same DR numbers may be be experienced differently. Personally I didn't have an issue with Buffalo or Upper Darby but Roxy and the new Winterlands are nigh unlistenable for more than a track or 2 at a time for me. oobar2000 1.5.1 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2020-02-07 17:43:26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Bruce Springsteen / Western Stars -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR9 -0.09 dB -11.56 dB 3:37 01-Hitch Hikin' DR7 -0.09 dB -10.22 dB 4:18 02-The Wayfarer DR6 -0.10 dB -8.06 dB 3:31 03-Tucson Train DR6 -0.09 dB -10.32 dB 4:41 04-Western Stars DR7 -0.08 dB -8.26 dB 3:14 05-Sleepy Joe's Café DR7 -0.09 dB -10.46 dB 4:17 06-Drive Fast (The Stuntman) DR7 -0.09 dB -10.53 dB 5:03 07-Chasin' Wild Horses DR7 -0.10 dB -8.76 dB 3:18 08-Sundown DR8 -0.10 dB -12.01 dB 1:53 09-Somewhere North of Nashville DR7 -0.08 dB -9.16 dB 4:45 10-Stones DR6 -0.09 dB -7.69 dB 4:05 11-There Goes My Miracle DR6 -0.10 dB -8.35 dB 3:56 12-Hello Sunshine DR9 -0.10 dB -11.45 dB 4:16 13-Moonlight Motel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR7 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 2793 kbps Codec: FLAC

Well apparently the stream hid the compression well because I haven't had an issue like other BUT I did the DR Values for the actual FLAC files and it is bad. DR 6. One of the worst in the whole series compression wise. Havent listened to them yet. Log below if anyone cares. oobar2000 1.5.1 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2020-02-07 13:56:56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band / 2009/05/04 Uniondale, NY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR6 0.00 dB -7.20 dB 6:49 01-Badlands DR6 0.00 dB -7.13 dB 4:56 02-No Surrender DR6 0.00 dB -7.94 dB 8:30 03-Outlaw Pete DR6 0.00 dB -7.48 dB 5:26 04-She's the One DR6 0.00 dB -8.14 dB 7:17 05-Working On A Dream DR6 0.00 dB -7.25 dB 6:34 06-Seeds DR6 0.00 dB -7.70 dB 6:49 07-Johnny 99 DR6 0.00 dB -7.87 dB 8:28 08-The Ghost of Tom Joad DR6 0.00 dB -8.02 dB 6:50 09-Raise Your Hand DR7 0.00 dB -8.89 dB 4:05 10-Expressway To Your Heart DR6 0.00 dB -8.79 dB 7:53 01-For You DR7 0.00 dB -7.75 dB 3:05 02-Rendezvous DR6 0.00 dB -7.03 dB 3:33 03-Night DR6 0.00 dB -7.83 dB 5:44 04-Waitin' on a Sunny Day DR6 0.00 dB -7.74 dB 6:18 05-The Promised Land DR11 -0.09 dB -14.72 dB 5:29 06-The Wrestler DR6 0.00 dB -7.62 dB 4:19 07-Kingdom Of Days DR6 0.00 dB -7.12 dB 3:55 08-Radio Nowhere DR6 0.00 dB -7.68 dB 4:19 09-Lonesome Day DR6 0.00 dB -8.57 dB 5:16 10-The Rising DR6 0.00 dB -8.32 dB 8:29 11-Born to Run DR8 0.00 dB -10.12 dB 4:16 12-Hard Times Come Again No More DR6 0.00 dB -9.65 dB 10:58 01-Jungleland DR7 0.00 dB -8.26 dB 7:38 02-Land Of Hope And Dreams - People Get Ready DR7 0.00 dB -8.19 dB 7:56 03-American Land DR7 0.00 dB -8.27 dB 5:37 04-Dancing in the Dark DR6 0.00 dB -7.69 dB 9:05 05-Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 27 Official DR value: DR6 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 964 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================

I have been listening on SiriusXM and it sounds like the other shows from this era. Nice mix from JA. No complaints about the mix from me. I havent had any issues listening compression wise but it is hard to tell on the stream. So if you like this era I dont see any reason not to get and enjoy.

No release tomorrow

Not really. I am more of a live music fan so if a live performance has an outtake on it I may enjoy it but studio versions just have very little appeal as anything more than a curiousity. I don't listen to any of them more than once or twice. That is why this live archive series is my favorite thing Bruce Inc has done.

I have zero interest in any demos or outtakes so please keep that stuff away for the Live Archive Series. They can put that stuff out separately in box sets where they belong.

Pass for me but for those that like solo Bruce hope this is a good one for you.

Long 5 weeks til the next one...

Aside from the audience being a little low especially at certain points that would enhance the listening experience like the beginning of 10th Ave but that is a preference and not a huge deal for me unlike some on another board, this sounds so much better than the boot which I always considered one of the most overrated boots with regards to sound quality. I remember reading how it was like an official release and rated a 10 or A++ on trading sites back in the day and when i got it in 2000 I was shocked that it didn't sound that great in comparison to the hype. It sounded harsh, compressed and the separation was not that great at least to me. This is an inherent issue with almost all IEM mixes whether matrixed or otherwise. Now don't get me wrong, it sounds good for what it is, a very good IEM/AUD recording but it is nothing like an official release or even coming close to some of the other broadcast/soundboard boots in Bruce's history. I listened to it once or twice and put in on the shelf back in 2000 never to be touched again. It sits in an storage bin somewhere now. I never even bothered to rip it to listen to as the sound wasn't pleasing to my ears. This release blows it away in my opinion.

I think Prove It 78 is the single best thing Bruce (or any band/artist) has ever done live so clearly I disagree. Any subsequent version is substandard to me no matter how good it is. I also get annoyed at the Sad Eyes part of Backstreets and prefer the versions just played straight. I think they made the right choice editing it out of Live 75-85. It would be an awesome and most likely powerful experience live but I find it breaks up the flow of the song (which is my favorite Bruce song all time) upon repeated listens. I find myself skipping ahead during it when I listen to shows nowadays. I find it hard to think of a version of a song by Bruce or any artist for that matter than has a live interlude that breaks up the song in the middle that actually enhances the song for me personally. I am probably in the minority with this opinion especially on this and other Bruce fan boards.