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  1. Must admit I've always been a bit underwhelmed by Bond movies.

    What's the big deal?

    At the end of the day it's just branding - call it a Bond movie and people will turn out in droves just as they do for Star Wars, Aliens etc. 

    I liked that Adele song one of them  used as a theme. 

    I'll rent it when it's streaming and see if I can stay awake for this one. 

  2. I notice Amazon uk are currently selling this at around £98 - £30 off the original price. I may buy it when (if) the price drops lower. 

    It's been pointed out elsewhere the running times of the 5 discs average at less than an hour. So at full price it's a bit steep unless you really have to have the book.  

    Not as good value for money as other releases in the series. 

    Thay are also flogging Trouble No More for around the same price - that has 9 discs including a DVD.

  3. I was stuck for something to watch the other night so i took a dive into this as I know it's kind of popular. 

    I see it's already been discussed. 

    Three episodes in and I was thinking oh my what have I been missing out on all these years?  I'll tell you what I've been missing: the opportunity to smugly carp on about what utter pile of doggy mess this series is. Typical BBC poor writing, OTT melodrama, historical innaccuracies  - at one point a dying IRA man shouts his support for the Irish Free State - which didn't exist in 1919 and the IRA were opposed to it. Maybe he meant an  Irish free state without capitals but it was clumsy writing nonetheless. 

    I understand it gets worse and even more ridiculous with each series with this bunch of insignificant low lifers somehow finding themselves entwined in every key British historical event between the wars.  

    It's set in Birmingham but a lot of was filmed in the 'historic' bits of Liverpool so I enjoyed spotting bits of my old hometown. 

    But otherwise jeez what utter tosh. WAKE UP BRITAIN!

  4. Been listening to the 2cd set on Amazon. After really looking forward to this I'm a bit bit underwhelmed. Glad I didn't pre order the 5 cd set. Disc 1 is a set of rehearsals including a lot of cover versions  Totally superfluous I think. 

    The Infidels stuff doesn't really rise above what we already have on the original album and bootleg series releases.  

    Might shell out on the digital version at some point. It's ony 17.99 on Amazon - but sadly missing New Danville Girl.   

  5. That album kind of just came and went for me. It's ok but I prefer Western Stars.  

    I really like 'If I was the Priest' and Burnin' Train'. 

    'I'll See You in My Dreams' was played at my sister's funeral a few weeks back. 

    The 'Dylanesque' 'Jeannie' and 'Orphans' are quite boring and not a patch on the real thing. Bruce simply lacks Dylan's ability and skills with language and wordplay to sustain interest beyond three verses.

    The core of the album - the songs about growing up, being in a band etc - kind of just a bit ordinary for my taste. 

    The bit where he repeats House of a Thousand Guitars over and over really grates on my nerves. 

    Rainmaker lacks a decent, original tune. Sounds like something we've already heard before. 

    I still follow Bruce because of the impact of his core iconic era up to and including BUSA plus the amazing live shows up the last time I saw him (2012). This is ultimately just a form of brand loyalty but at the end of the day there's other artists I follow who quite frankly wipe the floor with Springsteen the lyricist and Springsteen the musician - though not necessarily the live performer which is where his real legacy lies.

     

     

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  6. On 8/2/2021 at 9:46 PM, Jimmy James said:

    After reading these comments, I'm kind of afraid to write this comment. But here we go: The Rising is most likely in the bottom quarter of favorite albums. Even though I enjoy a lot of the songs on it. Mary's Place, The Fuse, World's Apart, The Rising. But as an album as a whole haven't listened to it since I first got it. 

    I don't rate it that highly either. Some great songs but it's overlong and bloated. It's a bit of a phoney album. It was sold to us as Bruce's reaction to 9/11. In reality a lot of the songs were written before. Like the later Wrecking Ball it's Bruce hurrying to make a big statement on a current issue and the obviously 9/11 themed songs sound rushed, clumsy and quite frankly awful (Into the Fire is esp. poor).  I was on this board at the time and opinions were quite mixed. A lot of people didn't like it then with the production in particular getting a bit of stick.

  7. On 7/27/2021 at 9:24 AM, RockieSteen said:

    Hello everyone, 

    I hope you are doing well, especially during this period. My name is Catherine, I am 23 years old, I live in Brussels and I would like to do my thesis on Bruce Springsteen next year. The research question, still very vague, would be "Why is Bruce still relevant today", a question that leads to many doors in the end. One of you has already been kind enough to help me a bit and gave me the idea to delve into Bruce's Americanness and the universal appeal of his work. Talking with my teacher, she said "why don't you ask people why they think Bruce is still relevant today, maybe that will give you some ideas and leads". So here I am :) I also wanted to ask you if had any books or articles (academic or not) to recommend. Thanks in advance to those who will take the time to answer me. 

     

    You didn't mention the subject of your course. Are doing a degree in literature, music, cultural studies, American studies?

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  8. 1 hour ago, Frank said:

    I’m stating the obvious here of course, but I’ve just listened to the whole ‘Infidels’ for the fist time since I don’t know when, and I was blown away by the quality (and abundance) of Knopfler’s (and Mick Taylor’s, to a lesser extent) guitar work on that album.

     

     

    I'm blown away by that album full stop. Was sorely underrated when it came out - particularly by the trendy NME style journalism we had in the Uk at that time. 

    Don't know what the hell it's about but Jokerman is a brilliant. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, High As Hope said:

    I wasn't expectant so I'm not disappointed,not because I didn't want them to win but the years have taught me that it isn't going to happen.

    The main thing last night was Italy getting to half time only 1-0 down,as soon as that happened then it was game on,Mancini got them fired up at half time & got it right with his substitutions whereas Southgate's were questionable to say the least.

    The last 2 tournaments England have had a chance to win a major trophy,a favourable draw in both,that may not happen again for a very long time.

    Where we go from here who knows,though probably the same old same old.

    I don't blame the players, it's not their fault they're overhyped & overpaid.

    Building people up to knock them down is a national occupation.

    Unfortunately English football is a microcosm of society,the rich get richer,questionable financial conduct,abuse,racism,violence etc etc & like society it's getting past the point of no return to set it back to some kind of normality.

    Good to see Wembley full of true England fans like Tom Cruise.

    Something seemed to happen in this country - I think it was around 5 years and three weeks ago - when a certain obnoxious sector of British society felt they were given a green light to be even more openly offensive on certain issues.  

  10. 13 hours ago, Eileen said:

    The booing of the Danish Anthem - and the above - it's so bad. Embarrassing.

    Yep. And I've said similar before - there is no inherent reason why the game of football should itself have negative tags attached to it - but the bottom line is that it attracts a very particular crowd of individuals who see it as part of their chauvinistic, xenophobic, macho identity.  It's not the majority of fans but throughout my life it's enough of them to certainly put me off. Just not interested. 

    Don't follow football too closely but know enough to expect Italy to obliterate England on Sunday night. I hope each side gets what they deserve. I love Italian food. 

    Had a great 10k run in the local woods last night. I was the only one there. Heaven. 

     

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  11. 16 hours ago, ulfhpersson said:

    In my opinion, Mr. Springsteen work, from Greetings on wards, is by its own dialectic leading to this insight of the necessity of the ties that bind, and the dark shadow of alienation that erode humanity in the individual, that makes it possible for her to do the most awful things, sometimes as an immanent critique of an alienating society. So Mr. Springsteen, who him selves found himself in the nothingness of Nebraska way out in that little town in the west, an experience he so beautifully tell us about in his autobiography, tell us, what the heroes of his work them selves can not say, only act out. To see them not only as villains and murderers, but also as human beings, well Mr. Springsteen has helped us to do that, he has helped us to se us selves in the other, and in my opinion, that is great, great art.

    :lol: 

  12. On 6/30/2021 at 11:43 PM, MacBruce said:

    Nebraska; Bruce was quoted about the song "Nebraska was about that American isolation; what happens to people when they're alienated from their friends and their community and their government and their job. Because those are the things that keep you sane, that give meaning to life in some fashion. And if they slip away, and you start to exist in some void where the basic constraints of society are a joke, then life becomes kind of a joke. And anything can happen".

    Personally, I see the song as a warning, given Bruce's explanation given above. I think it's an incredibly powerful song which heralds an album which remains to this day for me one of Bruce's masterpiece records.

     

    That was very eloquently put by Bruce but the song itself taken on its own terms doesn't do that. You'd never know that was the purpose of the song without Bruce telling us. It merely summarises the plot of a Terence Mallick movie with a generic tune sung over a really quite unremarkable piece of music. I would still cite the writing on Tom Waits' Blue Valentine album (e.g. Romeo is Bledding) as describing vastly superior character portrayals of 'American Isolation' without the writer having to tell us in a later interview what the song is actually supposed to be about.

  13. 19 minutes ago, Frank said:

    Well, the darkest numbers from the River, and their natural suite Nebraska, were the result of Bruce delving into traditional and country music, Hank Williams and Johnny Cash in particular. I think the Nebraska fully belongs to the blues and country tradition of "prison" or "criminal" music, in the vein of traditionals like Stagger (or Stack a) Lee, Robert Johnson's 32-20 Blues, Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison Blues, Bob Dylan's Ballad of Hollis Brown the Clash's I Fought the Law,  Steve Earle's John Walker's Blues and on. It's part of a specific musical genre. I don't see it as Bruce celebrating serial killers per se. 

    All those songs you mention wipe the floor with Nebraska. I think Bruce thought he was following that tradition when he wrote it. And maybe he was but it is still a load of boring pants nonetheless. 

  14. 11 hours ago, Jimmy James said:

    Commie Tommy was on ESR couple days ago. Played a bunch of what he called "darker tunes" He introduced these two songs as a song about a serial killer and one about a mass murderer. Nebraska and Paradise! He also played 41 shots. 

    My question is besides telling a couple great stories with great music, what am I suppose to get out of these tunes? Am I suppose to feel sorry for a serial killer or a mass murderer? I do feel sorry for what happened to Charles in 41 Shots. 

    I just don't get the message in some tunes, or why would Bruce write a song about such things, especially Paradise on his 911 album. To me 41 shots has no political message. Code of Silence has more of a political message about basically the same thing. Maybe I'm wrong here, I would like to here what you have to say. 

    This isn't meant to be a debate, but just something to talk about. Is there something I'm missing here? We can also talk about other tunes with questionable meanings. 

    My heart used to sink when I was at a Springsteen gig and he'd do Nebraska. It's a dire song. Boring rehash of the tune to This Land is Your Land with a lyric that's basically a summary of a Terence Mallick movie. Apparently the 'meanness in this world' line is what really gets  the literary intellectuals excited.  It's so 'existential' etc. It's pants. And yes the tone of the song I believe is sympathetic to the killer. I always hated it and I always will. 

    I don't like Paradise much either. Starts with an interesting verse and then wanders off into third rate poetry about rivers and such. 

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  15. 18 hours ago, ulfhpersson said:

    To impute motivations like the ones in the text above is arrogant.

    Really? I suspect it was pretty much spot on. I bet a group of striking white collar civil servants or local council staff wouldn't have grabbed his attention. It fitted Bruce's image to support earthy blue collar types etc and his core middle class left leaning audience would have approved. In the long run he'd been better off giving his money to environmental causes.

  16. I liked the title track

    LOHD is ok just as long as you don't spend too much time pondering the lyrics - if we've learnt anything over the last decade it's that one person's hope and dreams is another's nightmare. So it's a nice piece of music, well sung, sounds good in performance but is a bit vague and daft really.

    I liked Swallowed Up. 

    I liked the studio American Land and the Human Touch era sounding You Got It. 

    I thought the rest of it was complete garbage and still do. 

    The album is choc full of poor lyrics (at times verging on what we would later call Trumpisms) where Bruce describes what he thinks is the typical mindset of early 20th century Everyman as he gets screwed over by The Man. Yawn . 

    EasyMoney, Jack of All Trades, Shackled and Drawn and Death to My Hometown are particulary dire.  Does Bruce really think this how ordinary people reacted to the crash of 2007/08? I'm not so sure. 

    The music is pretty much generic alt.Americana. There's barely a tune you think you haven't heard before. 

    We Take Care of Are Own has echoes of 90's Britpop songs by The Lightning Seeds and Pulp 

    And how can a road of good intentions by as dry as a bone? Rubbish

    Prior to release we were told that WB was Bruce's reaction to the 2007/8 crash. He was angy. In fact he was hoppin'. bloomin' of his trolley mad with rage. The album however came across as a deliberate attempt to revive his  American Blue Collar Icon status at a time of national crisis. Didn't work.

    It seemed to me at the time that a lot people really liked this album because Bruce was back to singing about blue collar type guys losing their jobs etc but somehow lost sight of the fact the most of the content was at best average. WOAD was objectively superior on just about every level. 

    Remamber that hilarious calvary/cavalry debate on this board? Pages and pages of people showing off their in depth theological knowledge, crediting Bruce with the same when it was pretty obvious from the context of the line he was singing 'Cavalry'. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  17. LOL. I'm Liverpool born and bred but a non football fan. Can't miss the headlines, though. Hilarious. That Everton result a short while back had me laughing out loud.  Makes me wonder again, though - why do people get so drawn to this stuff? It's like one year the team does well and the fans are over the moon - not walking alone across the Mersey and  that kind of stuff - next year they do crap and the fans are utterly dejected - but still not walking alone across the Mersey etc -  and yet ultimately the fans have zero control over the outcome whatever it is. A high followed by an a complete downer. But the highs happen about once every 30 years - or never.  It's a pointless addiction to a form masochism - pure and simple.  

  18. If the last year has taught me something I don't miss spending hundreds of £'s on a combination of concert tickets, transport, hotels etc to witness gigs in football stadiums or arenas. It's just not a particularly enjoyable experience - thinking back to the '80's I wonder it it ever truly was? I wonder how the experience of this pandemic will result in a shift in  priorities for a lot of people?

     

     

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  19. Someone may already have made this point but this story is a classic example of not jumping to conclusions too quickly on the basis of a single headline. When the news broke my original thought was along the lines of sad old man potentially with a drink problem in his car drowning his sorrows on his own in the park. Bit like a character in one of his songs. 

    Truth of course was much different but potentially reveals the rather bizarre attitude America still has towards alcohol some 80 odd years after prohibition was ended. What the hell is wrong with having a drink in the park? 

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  20. If I was answering this question 30 years ago the answer would be very different to now. Same as if I was answering 20 years ago. 

    Do people here generally retain the same favourite music throughout their lives or switch as time goes by? 

    One thing for certain - I tend to drop into this board out of long ingrained habit but Springsteen ceased to be my 'favourite' quite some time ago  - e.g I can't abide acoustic Bruce (or acoustic music in general) and none of his post Magic studio albums totally hit the mark for me except roughly half of Western Stars. 

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