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  1. 1 hour ago, JustDan said:

    I agree with your 2nd paragraph. & by the way, does anybody here realize Springsteen has already won 23 Grammys in his career.....23 folks. That's more than the Beatles, Elvis or Sinatra. In fact, that's more than most of any of his peers. Been there-done that. Is it really a slap in the face, or even a snub if he wasn't nominated this year?  TJ is right. I don't get why people still take offense, or need to have their fandom validated by him winning more awards.

    And I just realised my first paragraph is missing a very important “not”. It was NOT aimed at you. :)

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  2. 23 minutes ago, rosiejaneymary said:

    Well, yes and no.  

    It certainly has never ever affected if I liked or didn’t like something.  

    OTOH, I think it’s always appreciated by an artist to be recognized.  

    OTOH, awards (like all art itself) are always subjective.  

    Does it bother me personally that Bruce wasn’t recognized? No.  Would it have been nice?  Sure.  

    I know it sounds like I'm trying to be smart, but I honestly don't know why i would be nice. I can understand how it would be nice for a lesser known artist, it brings exposure. But why would it mean something for that particular group of people to distinguish a record or a song?

    Also, although in the Past the awarded might have been artists we like more, I'm not sure these events were ever anything else but glorified marketing events. 

  3. 2 hours ago, JustDan said:

    That what?....That Bruce isn't nominated for a grammy? My long-winded explanation? (Sorry, I tend to run at the mouth a bit in my attempt to thoroughly explain something). 

    If it's about Bruce being nominated for a Grammy...well, I guess the answer is 'yes'.......to some people on this forum it's important. Talk to someone like Gus, or the O.P. about that.

    If it's about my long-windedness............sorry dude. Since the demise of the political forums, there's just not much fluidity in discussions around here.....other than talking about .....well, Bruce.

    No Dan, my comment was directed at your posts in this thread. I would have quoted you if it was.

    It just seems odd that people place importance in these things as if they have to have their taste validated.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Daisey Jeep said:

    this would be sooooooo awsome !

    maybe the reason im not overly keen on alot of the covers is because i don't like them to begin with 

    but now we get Rhindstone cowboy i think its the greatest cover ever !

    Anything by Kris Kristofferson would be great. I’m sure Bruce would do a terrific job covering Casey’s Last Ride.

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  5. 3 hours ago, whispered secret said:

    You are going to have to explain that to me please?

    As I see it, it’s a reference to the repetitiveness of daily life (“bills and kids and bills and kids”), it’s about how one’s life is absorbed by what one must do as opposed to what one wants. It’s about hindered possibilities and dreams. And what good is politics if not to make these possibilities and dreams real? 

    I don’t think I made that very clear... Maybe I’ll give it another go later! :) 

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  6. 10 hours ago, Daisey Jeep said:

    some really great points there Sylvia 

    im trying to remember the last time a song sparked such indept anaylis and differing opinions ....and its not even a political kind of song 

     The part about kids, bills and the ringing of the bell is central to it and, I believe, very political.

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  7. 22 minutes ago, Rizla said:

    :blink: :unsure: :lol:

    Oh boy... I promise there’s a good explanation. I have/had a band called The Jack Shits and for typing it so often, my phone changed shots to Shits. :)

    I’ve corrected it, but if anyone wants to pursue the idea that the narrator has the shits... 

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  8. Well, get ready for some gloom because I think they’re all dead. In some fashion! This song reminds me a lot of Tom Waits’ Martha.

    The Motel was a place where the narrator used to go with a lover when they were young. It was easy for them to disappear and live what was essentially a romantic lie, a promise they both knew would never be fulfilled.

    Then life kicks in, they part ways and get married to other people only to be drowned in bills and kids and the ringing of the work bell which, the narrator thinks, can be heard at the Moonlight Motel, because that’s where his mind still is. He compares his life to the one that was “promised to him” all those years ago in that place.

    When he says “my old spot” (not “our old spot”), you know he’s lived his whole life thinking about what could have been. And you know this thing he’s doing with the shots is something he’s not doing for the first time. He pours one shot for him and the version of him that has died, one for her and for the promise of love she represented that has died and one more to the Motel that seems to be physically moribund but, as the place where all this love once seemed possible, it’s now also dead.

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  9. There was nothing about SOB I liked, really. I barely made it through the Netflix special.

    On the other hand, the idea of getting the WS experience live with special renditions of songs like Gypsy Biker, Shut out the light, Santa Ana, Further I’m up the Road, The Wall, The Wrestler, The Hitter, Devils And Dust (most of that album, really)... That would have been something really special. Can you imagine Shut out the Light getting the WS treatment? It would be something really special, I think.

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  10. So, it’s the next day...

    There were very few things I didn’t like. The Q&A, as others have said, was completely superfluous and detracted from the experience of the movie. As a movie, I think someone other than Zimny could have helped Bruce pace this a bit better. I wonder what Scorsese could have done with this... 

    However, musically, what an achievement! The score Bruce composed is spot on perfect, some of the footage is great (some of it seemed a bit forced, though). I think the film would have benefited from not having Bruce on any of “interstitial pieces”, just his voice over some gorgeous footage.

    Some things that stood out:

    The way Hitch Hiker builds up is just ridiculously perfect. 

    I’m definitely not a fan of Patti’s singing. Here, though, specially in the theatre, I can’t fault it. Not only did it not ruin any song, it actually added something to them.

    Bruce’s voice sounded perfect. Our man has outdone himself.

    The musicianship on that stage was incredible. The orchestra was immaculate and they looked over the moon for being there (the look on the violinist’s face when she takes the solo on Stones is priceless). The lap steel guy does one hell of a job and so do the drummer and the guitar guy. And Charlie Giordano... This guy is the unsung hero of Bruce’s musical output over the last decade. There’s nothing I don’t like about him or his playing.

    The whole thing sounded gloriously. I love that little trick of bringing an instrument forward a bit forward when it’s on camera. 

    I was really happy just sitting there, completely relaxed, with absolute confidence in Bruce, letting him guide me through that journey. 

    I wasn’t a fan of his Broadway thing but this is something else. This is new music, it’s challenging (for him and for us), this is relevant and artistically impressive. I’m proud to be a fan of this man right now. 


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