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On 2/13/2020 at 7:55 AM, JudgeBrown said:

What are everyone's thoughts on the proposed new playoff structure? I think it is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard, and probably just an attempt to distract from the sign stealing story.

This writer doesn't like it for sure, nor the new rule re relief pitchers ;) 

https://thebulwark.com/the-mlb-is-like-a-drug-cartel-trying-to-kill-its-customers/

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In Nevada you can bet on anything. And I would say take the over.

I so wish he had only played baseball, and for a long time. Tremendous athlete.   

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Major League Baseball has made official a rule change that many purists were dreading: Pitchers will have to face a minimum of three hitters before their team can make a pitching change.

The three-bat minimum had long been talked about coming to MLB this season, but the league spelled out the specifics Wednesday:

The Official Baseball Rules have been amended to require the starting or any relief pitcher to pitch to a minimum of three batters, including the batter then at bat (or any substitute batter), until such batters are put out or reach base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the umpire crew chief’s judgment, incapacitates him from further play as a pitcher.  The three-batter minimum will become effective in 2020 Spring Training beginning on Thursday, March 12th.

The goal is to speed up games, as the commissioner’s office has prioritized pace of play as a major issue since Rob Manfred took over. The rule change would eliminate the job baseball fans know as the LOOGY — the left-handed-one-out-only guy, or the lefty reliever who comes into a game to get one out.

The new rules allow for that only if that batter is the final out of an inning. Otherwise relievers will have to face three batters at minimum this season and beyond

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2 hours ago, DarknessandHope said:

Major League Baseball has made official a rule change that many purists were dreading: Pitchers will have to face a minimum of three hitters before their team can make a pitching change.

The three-bat minimum had long been talked about coming to MLB this season, but the league spelled out the specifics Wednesday:

The Official Baseball Rules have been amended to require the starting or any relief pitcher to pitch to a minimum of three batters, including the batter then at bat (or any substitute batter), until such batters are put out or reach base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the umpire crew chief’s judgment, incapacitates him from further play as a pitcher.  The three-batter minimum will become effective in 2020 Spring Training beginning on Thursday, March 12th.

The goal is to speed up games, as the commissioner’s office has prioritized pace of play as a major issue since Rob Manfred took over. The rule change would eliminate the job baseball fans know as the LOOGY — the left-handed-one-out-only guy, or the lefty reliever who comes into a game to get one out.

The new rules allow for that only if that batter is the final out of an inning. Otherwise relievers will have to face three batters at minimum this season and beyond

I would agree with this, if the offensive team couldn't pinch hit with in the same three hitter rule. 

BTW: this will not speed the game up at all. Plus I can't believe the Players Union went along with this. A lot of lefthander specialist maybe left out of a team? 

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New York Yankees starting pitcher Luis Severino needs Tommy John surgery, according to general manager Brian Cashman.

Severino, 26, felt discomfort in his forearm after pitching on Feb. 20, which manager Aaron Boone said dated back to his final start against the Houston Astros in Game 7 of the American League Championship Series. The pain had been affecting him on and off since then, and the Yankees actually sent him to New York twice during the offseason for an MRI and a CT scan. Neither showed any issues.

The Yankees shut Severino down once he felt the pain, and he traveled to New York to be examined by a doctor and undergo a battery of tests. Unfortunately, the result is a recommendation of Tommy John surgery.

Severino has a history of past injuries, which makes the latest news so frustrating. He spent most of 2019 out of service, dealing with both shoulder and lat problems. He pitched 12 innings in the regular season (ending with a 1.50 ERA) and 8.1 innings in the playoffs. He allowed no runs in four innings in the American League Division Series, and two runs over 4.1 innings in the ALCS. He has a 3.46 ERA over five major league seasons.

Cashman said that Severino will get the surgery as soon as possible. No official timetable will be available until he has the surgery, but pitchers who have Tommy John typically need a full year to recover. That means Severino will miss the entire 2020 season, and would likely be healed and ready to pitch competitively for the 2021 season.

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On 2/23/2020 at 5:53 PM, JudgeBrown said:

In Nevada you can bet on anything. And I would say take the over.

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Absolutely take the over. https://thebulwark.com/crime-and-punishment-and-the-beaning-of-the-houston-astros/

Crime and Punishment and the Beaning of the Houston Astros

The Astros should be beaned. Over and over. For their own good.

by ED CONDON 

MARCH 6, 2020 5:30 AM

It’s not a great time to be an Astro. As Houston plays their warmup schedule in Florida, batters are catching hell, home and away. Twitter is flooded with videos of fans booing the team’s every at-bat, shouting at the dugout, demanding that the Astros give back their 2017 World Series* trophy. (Which will never happen.)

But instead of treating 2020 as a penitential walk of atonement, Houston’s players have been defiant. Carlos Correa effectively coined the team’s motto for the season, telling the Dodgers’ Cody Bellinger—and by proxy the rest of the league’s player and fans—to “shut the fuck up.”

It is an affront to man and nature, a situation which cries out for remedy. But the codified law of the baseball authorities has failed to act. Despite finding that Houston’s cheating regimen was player-led and player-conceived, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred has been both unable and unwilling to do anything to balance the scales of justice. Thanks to the players’ union, his writ runs short in the actual community of the game.

But that need not be the end of the story.

Because in legal history, the jurisdiction of governments and their codified laws rested on, and was circumscribed by, the ius commune, the law of the peoples. Baseball is very much its own land with its own common law and justice. If sign stealing is, as many have pointed out, as old as the game, so too is the punishment for those caught committing the offense: If the runner is picking off signs, the pitcher picks off the batter.

This isn’t mob rule or frontier justice. It’s better understood as baseball’s natural law.

The remedy for the current situation is simple: Houston’s batters should be beaned, over and over. Until they are sorry.

This isn’t a vindictive judgment. It’s actually for their own good, and the good of everyone who lives with the love of the game in their hearts.

In law, penalties come in two kinds. Expiatory (also called vindictive) punishments make the criminal pay for the sake of justice, a price is exacted for what they did. An eye for an eye.

Medicinal penalties aim for reform. Their function is to press home on the offenders the gravity of what they have done until they are moved to remorse and atonement. The idea is not to see them grovel, but to reintegrate them into the community and make society whole again.

Which is what Houston needs. Not fines, or forfeited draft picks, but 85 mph balls up between the numbers until they understand that there is no shutting the fuck up and no moving on until they acknowledge what they did, sue for pardon, and are granted it by baseball at large.

They must be made to see that, while the players’ union may shield them from the governing authority, they are answerable first and always to the community.

It’s strong medicine, but the patient needs it.

So far in Florida, it’s looking possible. At one point seven Houston batters were hit in five games, an astronomical 1.4 HBP per 9 innings.

The initial Vegas line put the over/under on total Astros HBP this season at 83.5.

The market took the under so hard that the line shifted all the way down 81. For perspective: last season the Mets finished with an HBP of 0.59 per 9 innings, which translated to 95 HBPs for the season.

Even taking into account fan fury, player resentment, and the vanishing improbability of any pitcher with a soul signaling an intentional walk to a Houston batter this year, Vegas is betting the 2020 Astros are going to get off easier than the 2019 Mets?

That’s not a hedge, it’s a crisis of faith.

Our institutions are under siege on all sides. Our government, our politics, our press, our churches, our very trust that the big mediating institutions which make communal life possible—let alone just, or pleasurable—has been betrayed over the last few decades with impunity. There are many reasons for the collapse of these institutions. One of them is the absence of accountability.

This evaporation of consequences has become the hallmark of our age, the acid eating away at our culture, the fuel of a burning fire of rage and resentment that threatens the common roof under which we live.

That Vegas line up there? It’s another manifestation of institutional collapse. Because it’s a demonstration that the betting public—the people with skin in the game—expect that the Astros will smug their way through their scandal, one sneering profanity at a time, just like everyone else. It’s a sign that people are betting that the culture of baseball is too weak to defend its natural laws.

But there is reason for hope.

The ballpark is one of our last undivided public squares. It has not fallen prey to the same quasi-political jingoism, posturing, and preening as the open-air circus of the NFL. Baseball fans are broadly united in what they will, and will not, tolerate in the name of the game.

The institution of baseball is resilient. It has survived the Black Sox, the designated hitter, and the no-pitch intentional walk. It even survived the steroid era and exhibited an amazing resiliency, denying Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, and Roger Clemens admission to Cooperstown.

Houston, as a team, for years, stole wins, pennants, MVPs, and a World Series championship*. As a team they have now set their faces against their fellow players, the fans, and game. They need tough love.

It is for baseball to call them back, in justice and within the game they betrayed, one pitch at a time. Know it can be done. Believe it will be done. Have faith in the game.

Take the over.

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I haven't watched any of the spring training games yet, and doubt I will watch any, or see the highlights on Sports Center.  Were the Astros that are getting plunked on the team in 2017 when they won the World Series, and later when they were still stealing signs, or is it everybody and anybody in a Houston uniform getting plunked?

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In the midst of a global pandemic that has crippled the country and taken the lives of 90,000 of our fellow Americans, the Astros organization is trying to bring a little sunshine to fan. If you want to send a happy graduation message or Father's Day message to someone you love but can't see, the team is willing to put your message up on the big scoreboard at Minute Maid Park.

For $75 a pop.

 

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