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I copied this from \ troll thread...

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2 stir some shit, say something they like..mention the Big Man

3 make on you're a fan from yonks ago, a mate who "recommended " Bruce

4,  make on your mam or dad were fans

5,  You seen Bruce once..you liked him ..but

6, I like Bruce but my fav is..

7, his lyrics are good but not as good as..

8, I don't like Patti, slag off his wife is troll gold

9, You met him once and he was not nice

10, shhh this is the troll gold..get fans to let me and then slag him off

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On 5/22/2020 at 6:09 AM, Jay777 said:

Key facet of a ballad is narrative and third party narration...a sung story told by the balladeer...

That is complete crap. Third party narrative is not a facet at all.

 

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1 hour ago, Kent Guitar said:

That is complete crap. Third party narrative is not a facet at all.

 

i googled what is a ballad ? on wiki

they are way too many restrictions so i just ignored them :lol:

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On ‎5‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 6:09 AM, Jay777 said:

Key facet of a ballad is narrative and third party narration...a sung story told by the balladeer...

I like the third party narration as a definition. It rings true (think the ballad of queenie and rover, ballad of a thin man, ballad of Billy the Kid).

And it forced me to dig deep into the list of songs in which Springsteen sits outside and does not adopt a character within the narrative. Choices were thin on the ground in terms of ‘best’ so for some songs the narrator is present but purely as an observer Eg; Wreck on the Highway and Point Blank to a lesser extent.

Jungleland

Johnny 99

Incident on 57th street

Lost in the flood

Reason to Believe

Point blank

Wreck on the highway

Wild Billy’s circus story

Johnny bye bye

Devil’s Arcade

 

I thought about Kitty’s Back’s place on this list but it is just too funky to be called a ballad by any other definition. Jungleland gets a nod due to the epic nature of the story unfolding as told by an outsider looking in.

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12 hours ago, newcastle roy said:

I copied this from \ troll thread...

rules for a troll

1 make on you're fan

2 stir some shit, say something they like..mention the Big Man

3 make on you're a fan from yonks ago, a mate who "recommended " Bruce

4,  make on your mam or dad were fans

5,  You seen Bruce once..you liked him ..but

6, I like Bruce but my fav is..

7, his lyrics are good but not as good as..

8, I don't like Patti, slag off his wife is troll gold

9, You met him once and he was not nice

10, shhh this is the troll gold..get fans to let me and then slag him off

@phantomengineer

@Jertucky

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Wrong thread?

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7 hours ago, Tanqueray&Wine said:

 

 

I thought about Kitty’s Back’s place on this list but it is just too funky to be called a ballad by any other definition. Jungleland gets a nod due to the epic nature of the story unfolding as told by an outsider looking in.

What about 'Outside looking in' although it might be a little rowdy to be called a ballad :D

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2 hours ago, Spanish Juannie said:

What about 'Outside looking in' although it might be a little rowdy to be called a ballad :D

It's a rock song about a balladeer perhaps?

I saw one definition of ballad as ' a slow sentimental or romantic song.'  If it's based on tempo then is there a technical range ballads sit within? I admit it is hard to classify Jungleland as a ballad but as a third party narration it's hard to beat.  

 

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8 hours ago, Kent Guitar said:

Except for the fact that it isn’t and never has been.

There's a difference between a ballad in literature and a ballad in rock/pop music. 

In literature, the third person objective narration is very often one of the characteristics. In rock/pop music this rule doesn't seem to apply, and the ballad is simply a sentimental song that often deals with romantic relationships and heartbreak. Usually slow in tempo, and with lush arrangements. 

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A quick check whether a certain song qualifies as a ballad. Just imagine it being sung by Celine Dion. If it sounds good in your imagination, then it's definitely a ballad. :P
 

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3 hours ago, Silvia said:

 

In literature, the third person objective narration is very often one of the characteristics.

This simply isn’t true. Third party narrative is not a key facet of a ballad.

Think of the classical ballads.

The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, which you will be very familiar with if you have studied Ballads, it has two narrators, both in the first person.

Something doesn’t become true merely through assertion.

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On 5/22/2020 at 11:05 AM, Royston Vasey said:

Streets of Philadelphia. Oh my word, what a great song. Surely in any refreshed Top 10.

Indeed. I’m hoping Bruce will do a song for a movie again sometime.

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My view is that any song that is chilled qualifies......apologies, I appreciate that is not too scientific.......but it’s the songs we have heard live when the crowd noise just stops and we sit/stand there ready to take in a beautiful Bruce penned classic...and hopefully there are no nattering casual fans adjacent who sadly see it merely as a chance to catch up whilst they can hear themselves talk. My revised Top 10 are :

Racing In The Street

Happy

Back in your Arms

The Promise

Point Blank

Independence Day

One Step Up

Valentine’s Day

The Wall

Drive All Night.

Such a difficult choice, leaving out such classics as Meeting Across The River, Streets of Phili, Secret Garden, and so many others......but as they say, it’s a high class problem.

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what is the definition of a ballad in pop / rock music, generally you will find the following explanation, a ballad is a quiet song with a melancholy intimate atmosphere, and the lyrics are mostly about love.

4th of july, asbury park (sandy)

new york city serenade

the river

secret garden

streets of philadelphia

spanish eyes

city of night

moonlight motel

book of dreams

fire

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1. Racing In The Street

2. Drive All Night

3. Sandy

4. Stolen Car

5. You're Missing

6. Hello Sunshine

7. If I Should Fall Behind

8. The River

9. I Wish I Were Blind

10. Kingdom Of Days

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8 hours ago, homesquid said:

1. Racing In The Street

2. Drive All Night

3. Sandy

4. Stolen Car

5. You're Missing

6. Hello Sunshine

7. If I Should Fall Behind

8. The River

9. I Wish I Were Blind

10. Kingdom Of Days

nice Mr Squidly

and nice to see you :)

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