Thunder Roadie Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Oh goodness more rumours have leaked ! he’s not only looking at the DWUI but now a separate charge of TWLW ........!!! Thats Tequila without Lime Wedge! He’s in real trouble now ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eileen Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, Thunder Roadie said: Exactly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, JudgeBrown said: I just saw this, and am wondering if you know if it is accurate? It lists 3 possible scenarios for being DUI. That first one seems pretty vague, in that it seems to leave that to being a judgment call of the arresting officer. The National Park Service defines the commission of a DUI offense as a driver: Who is rendered incapable of safely operating a vehicle With a BAC of .08 percent or greater, or With a BAC that is greater than the limit established by state law, if the state’s DUI limit is more stringent. Well, certain medicines have warnings on the labels not to mix with alcohol. But when folks ignore those warnings, they can technically be impaired without actually being over the legal limit. Not really strictly a judgement call, as sobriety tests (balance tests) are always given to help the officer judge a person’s capacity to operate a motor vehicle. Within those balance tests are simple mental acuity tests as well The 2nd part is strictly .08% or higher And the 3rd option would be if arrested in a State where the legal limit is below .08%. In that State they would charge at that State’s lower rate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eileen Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Mind you, did I ever tell you about the time I got a bit of Bruce's sweat on my top lip? Can't remember which concert but I DO remember keeping it there for a while before licking it off. Hey, I had some of Bruce's DNA inside me! Wonder if I still have? My mind seems to have wandered - @Daisey Jeep's fault! 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jertucky Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 21 minutes ago, maccawings said: Well, certain medicines have warnings on the labels not to mix with alcohol. But when folks ignore those warnings, they can technically be impaired without actually being over the legal limit. Not really strictly a judgement call, as sobriety tests (balance tests) are always given to help the officer judge a person’s capacity to operate a motor vehicle. Within those balance tests are simple mental acuity tests as well The 2nd part is strictly .08% or higher And the 3rd option would be if arrested in a State where the legal limit is below .08%. In that State they would charge at that State’s lower rate You are also not required to take a breathalyzer, are you? I’m thinking the .02 will have more to do with when it was taken than with his actual level at the time he was stopped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy James Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 30 minutes ago, Eileen said: Mind you, did I ever tell you about the time I got a bit of Bruce's sweat on my top lip? Can't remember which concert but I DO remember keeping it there for a while before licking it off. Hey, I had some of Bruce's DNA inside me! Wonder if I still have? My mind seems to have wandered - @Daisey Jeep's fault! You didn't drive after this event, did you? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burghfan Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 14 minutes ago, Jertucky said: You are also not required to take a breathalyzer, are you? I’m thinking the .02 will have more to do with when it was taken than with his actual level at the time he was stopped. In PA if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test it counts as an automatic failure. I would guess that PA isn't the only state like that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastgirl Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 15 minutes ago, Jertucky said: You are also not required to take a breathalyzer, are you? I’m thinking the .02 will have more to do with when it was taken than with his actual level at the time he was stopped. Most states and I think the feds consider that you give implied consent when you are given a license. If you refuse a blood, breath or urine test your license is automatically suspended. Breath tests are given in real time at the scene. If you ask for a urine or blood test they have to transport you a detention or medical facility. Who ever thought everything I know about this subject would come in handy on The Lake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy James Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, burghfan said: In PA if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test it counts as an automatic failure. I would guess that PA isn't the only state like that. And in Missouri an automatic lose of your license Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 26 minutes ago, Jertucky said: You are also not required to take a breathalyzer, are you? I’m thinking the .02 will have more to do with when it was taken than with his actual level at the time he was stopped. Yes, you are required by law to submit to breath samples. Refusal to do so is an automatic 6 month suspension of license. Generally it is 40 minutes or more between the traffic stop and the taking of breath samples Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jertucky Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 16 minutes ago, burghfan said: In PA if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test it counts as an automatic failure. I would guess that PA isn't the only state like that. Wouldn’t that fit with Bruce getting a DWI but the claim being that his BAC came out at .02? If he refused it he would be assumed to have failed, regardless of what a breathalyzer may have said later? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rtb Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 CNN says it was 2 shots not 1. Does the title need updating? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Jertucky said: Wouldn’t that fit with Bruce getting a DWI but the claim being that his BAC came out at .02? If he refused it he would be assumed to have failed, regardless of what a breathalyzer may have said later? No, refusal to submit to breath samples is a stand alone and additional charge. Which means if the judge found you guilty for DWI, you would receive a 6 month loss of license and could receive an additional 6 month loss for the refusal conviction. According to the articles that I have seen, there is no mention of a refusal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzcoolness Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 minutes ago, Jertucky said: Wouldn’t that fit with Bruce getting a DWI but the claim being that his BAC came out at .02? If he refused it he would be assumed to have failed, regardless of what a breathalyzer may have said later? Yes, so that means we all jumped to conclusions that this was a throwaway case, there may be more information surrounding this than we know of. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzcoolness Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, rtb said: CNN says it was 2 shots not 1. Does the title need updating? Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzcoolness Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, maccawings said: No, refusal to submit to breath samples is a stand alone and additional charge. Which means if the judge found you guilty for DWI, you would receive a 6 month loss of license and could receive an additional 6 month loss for the refusal conviction. According to the articles that I have seen, there is no mention of a refusal https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-bruce-springsteen-dwi-arrest-details-20210211-ryqdwqlrc5ekbp4oopn6pqra3y-story.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9248977/Bruce-Springsteen-busted-DWI-one-shot-tequila-taking-pictures-fans.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, zzcoolness said: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-bruce-springsteen-dwi-arrest-details-20210211-ryqdwqlrc5ekbp4oopn6pqra3y-story.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9248977/Bruce-Springsteen-busted-DWI-one-shot-tequila-taking-pictures-fans.html Yeah see, the story continues to morph. This is the first mention I’ve seen of a refusal. If he did refuse, than the .02% is most likely false if you look at this article, it says he was viewed taking the last swig of a tequila bottle, not just a shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doesthisbusstop Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Not sure if the marketing team will sell more or less of these shot glasses now... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jertucky Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 9 minutes ago, maccawings said: No, refusal to submit to breath samples is a stand alone and additional charge. Which means if the judge found you guilty for DWI, you would receive a 6 month loss of license and could receive an additional 6 month loss for the refusal conviction. According to the articles that I have seen, there is no mention of a refusal Just searched around and found an article from the Asbury Park Press from earlier this afternoon. It says he did refuse a breathalyzer. It won’t link for some reason, but it’s out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jertucky Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 https://www.app.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/02/11/bruce-springsteen-dwi-motorcycle-after-stopping-fans-sandy-hook-nj/6721718002/ 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Still seems to be changing accounts. I’d wait for the whole story to come out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccawings Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Jertucky said: Just searched around and found an article from the Asbury Park Press from earlier this afternoon. It says he did refuse a breathalyzer. It won’t link for some reason, but it’s out there. The article from zzcoolness has the refusal in it but then states that samples given later were measured at .02% but not how long after the arrest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brown Eyed Boy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, zzcoolness said: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-bruce-springsteen-dwi-arrest-details-20210211-ryqdwqlrc5ekbp4oopn6pqra3y-story.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9248977/Bruce-Springsteen-busted-DWI-one-shot-tequila-taking-pictures-fans.html I wouldn’t believe a word the Mail publishes, its a disgusting newspaper. They’ve just lost court cases to both Meghan and Harry. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzcoolness Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 10 minutes ago, maccawings said: Yeah see, the story continues to morph. This is the first mention I’ve seen of a refusal. If he did refuse, than the .02% is most likely false if you look at this article, it says he was viewed taking the last swig of a tequila bottle, not just a shot Not sure whether to laugh or cry, but this is turning into a train wreck as it progresses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flagofpiracy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Lots of conflicting reports coming out, and I don't see Bruce refusing to take a breathalyzer test. Also, if he was offered a drink by people taking pics with him, why were those people not arrested for consuming alcohol in a closed area. Bruce is not popular with cops, cops love to go after big fish, brag they bagged a big one. Until he goes to court, we won't know the facts. https://www.tmz.com/2021/02/11/bruce-springsteen-blood-alcohol-dwi-arrest-below-legal-limit-nj/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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