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Hi everyone,

I'm listening to all of shows at the moment and something always strikes me 

It is like Bruce plays some shows without big efforts but some others are just phenomenal seeming they just make constant efforts to improve every parts of each songs they are playing

The show they played in 1978 at the Masonic Temple of Detroit is phenomenal.. I don't event understand why some guys prefer passaic that is fantastic too, but this one is just oustandind. I never appreciate more a 78 Spirit in the Night than this one and Badlands is as great as the one they played in phoenix earlier.. plus Chimes of Freedom and Lost in the Flood .

Don't how they played so great (maybe because Bruce was in his church) but it's really strange to have this show from the same Darkness tour that is totally at a different level and even better than Houston 78

I don't understand how this show is never requested for NUGS archive release

 

I would love to have your feelings about it..

Take care everyone

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21 hours ago, mxschrtt said:

There were a discussion about it already?

Unfortunately so. If we're really, really lucky, they'll have Berkeley 30 June/1 July, Passaic 21 September and Atlanta 1 October available on multitrack from 1978. Passaic is the most likely there (I'm almost certain they have that). First night in Atlanta would be truly spectacular as the audience tape from that is sadly unlistenable. 

Additionally, I've never seen anything that would suggest a SBD, let alone a multitrack, exists in the über circles. From memory, Gerber only worked with Bruce between 1975 and 1977, so that's not a possibility, either. 

As we've seen from Detroit/Toronto/LA on the River shows, (partial) soundboard tapes can acquired in dubious circumstances, so it's likely that INC don't even have some of those that circulate. 

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3 hours ago, Nick21 said:

Unfortunately so. If we're really, really lucky, they'll have Berkeley 30 June/1 July, Passaic 21 September and Atlanta 1 October available on multitrack from 1978. Passaic is the most likely there (I'm almost certain they have that). First night in Atlanta would be truly spectacular as the audience tape from that is sadly unlistenable. 

Additionally, I've never seen anything that would suggest a SBD, let alone a multitrack, exists in the über circles. From memory, Gerber only worked with Bruce between 1975 and 1977, so that's not a possibility, either. 

As we've seen from Detroit/Toronto/LA on the River shows, (partial) soundboard tapes can acquired in dubious circumstances, so it's likely that INC don't even have some of those that circulate. 

Okokk but I meant there were no declaration about the board saying ''we have nothing from this show"

Which by the way is a stupid remark as maybe the question was maybe never asked

But about what they could have, I think the discussion is the same.. My view is that they have a lot of things and more that what we can except

Maybe we can have this one this year for the Darkness release

The discussion is opened for people who has information about this show! 

  

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The Detroit 1978 Masonic temple show first got some notoriety from the bootleg Who’s Been Covered By The Boss? which contained the premiere and only 1978 tour performance Chimes of Chimes of Freedom.

Then a little later I saw also a newsflash from the Detroit 1978 concert on a VHS tape collection tape with the other 1978 TV appearances, being Berkeley, Landover, MSG and Passaic. All those newsflash still on youtube (that is technical progress!)

This show is also mentioned in the Backstreets #59 issue (1998) as one of the "Ten Great Moments on the Darkness Tour":  "Just what was going on with Springsteen the night of this show cannot be speculated upon. But one might assume, by his song selection, that he had something weighing on his mind. The second set opens with the little-played "Lost in the Flood". The version is gut-wrenching, as Bruce plays the song alone on piano. Three songs later Bruce tells the crowd, "I'm gonna try something, all right? I don't know these words." A music stand is brought to the stage holding the same lyric notebook he used on "Lost in the Flood", and after a few adjustments ("This is embarrassing... I'm short!") he says, "All right, I'll try it... This is one of my favorite songs. Here we go, let's give it a shot". He strums a few cautious chords, Roy comes in, and in a instant, Bruce turns towards Max Weinberg yells "Heavy pedal on the drums!" - and "Chimes of Freedom" starts flashing. "Far between sundown's finish, and midnight's broken toll ..."

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http://www.thelightindarkness.com/darkness/bruce-springsteen-masonic-temple-detroit-1978/

 

 

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On 4/21/2021 at 9:02 AM, mxschrtt said:

The show they played in 1978 at the Masonic Temple of Detroit is phenomenal.. I don't event understand why some guys prefer passaic that is fantastic too, but this one is just oustanding. I never appreciate more a 78 Spirit in the Night than this one and Badlands is as great as the one they played in phoenix earlier.. 

Seems to be a popular past time here on the lake: good – better – best · bad – worse – worst · little – less – least · much (many) – more – most · far – further - furthest.

Okay, here a deadmatch face to face between Detroit 1978 and Passaic 1978 as viewed by the unpartial local TV network crews:

 

 

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This is a "no shit, Sherlock"-thought :P but if we had all of the Darkness-tour shows in the same officially released sound quality as Passaic, there would be a lot of candidates for the best show on that tour.

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Darkness tour - every single show was great (imo), just some were greater than others, lol

Brucebase recording info as follows;

Audience tape. Released on CD 'Darkness At The Heartbreak Hotel' and four songs are included as bonus tracks on 'Winterland Night' (Crystal Cat). CDR released in 2010 'Wild Cathedral Evening' (JEMS / Flynn) from the master cassettes - a considerable upgrade. Video footage of the first three songs also circulates - the end of "Good Rockin' Tonight", most of "Badlands", and the start of "Streets Of Fire". This film is probably recorded by a local news crew.

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I’d completely forgotten about that. Wow. Going on the assumption that she still had the tapes to photograph circa 1984 prior to the book’s initial release (and therefore seemingly kept them long after the No Nukes incident) that’s potentially a good sign. Just like the Gerber Tapes (imagine what they could have on two-track from 1977!), I’d love to know if INC have these tapes in the archive. Maybe it’ll be one of the releases that goes in to the second or third Darkness Tour empty boxes on sale via NUGS :D

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  • 4 months later...

Famous concert when Bruce returned to the stage after the house lights went on to perform the last two numbers to a stunned remaining few. The excellent show includes the first E Street Band version of "Pretty Flamingo" since 1975. No "I Get Mad" in "She's The One", it's replaced by "Gloria". Now on YouTube now with handy timing links

 

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Listened to 9/1 second set a few days ago. Incredible show. Magic in the night.

listened to some random songs from 12/30 Detroit last night.

Different, obviously, but still amazing show. check out that amazing 12/30 Because the Night.

some great shows from Detroit, including 10/75, and 2/77.

 

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  • 2 months later...

19.12.78 Portland, OR, ‘I GOT MAD!’ in ´She’s The One’´
“Big Man! … Ah, this girl (Clarence: ‘Oh, yeah?’) … I call her up … (Clarence: ‘Uh-huh’) … She ain’t home (Clarence: ‘No?’) … I stop by go (Clarence: ‘Yeah’) … She ain’t home (Clarence: ‘No’) …I send her a letter (Clarence: ‘Uh-huh’) … I get no reply … I wanna lay down (Clarence: ‘What?’) … and find somebody else (Clarence: ‘Right on’) … Big Man … I went by her house (Clarence: ‘Uh-huh’) … it was real late (Clarence: ‘Yeah’) … I saw two silhouettes (Clarence: ‘Uh-huh’) … on the window shade (Clarence: Uh-oh!’) … I got out of the car (Clarence: ‘Yeah, what you do?’) … What’d I do? (Clarence: ‘Yeah?’) … I knocked on the door! (Clarence: ‘Right on!’)(chuckle) (Max hits drum) … No answer … I knocked twice (2 drum hits) … No answer … I knocked three times (3 drum hits) … no answer … the whole time (4 drum hits) … and then … I GOT MAD! … like Al Capone … I GOT MAD! … like Smokin’ Joe … I GOT MAD! … like Machine Gun Kelly (Max rips the drums like a machine gun) … I GOT MAD! … like … Popeye! … I got so mad … that I hurt my hand on the door … I went and I sat in the car … and I … thought awhile … now, some, I know sometimes I wish I could just … sometimes I just wanna … sometimes I just feel like I wanna … sometimes I just wanna (Clarence: ‘Go ahead, go ahead’) … (band stops) … sometimes I feel like if I don’t (Clarence: ‘Go ahead, go ahead’) … sometimes I just … sometimes I just wanna (Clarence: ‘Come on’) … I just wanna (Clarence: ‘Go ahead, c’mon’)… I just, I just, I just (Clarence: ‘Just what? Just what?’) …”

 

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Seems to be a popular past time here on the lake: good – better – best · bad – worse – worst · little – less – least · much (many) – more – most · far – further - furthest.

Now, this is an interesting subject. I will here try to give my answer to this complex question. What is interesting is, in my opinion, not always good. As far as I am concerned, Mr. Springsteen's work up to Nebraska is interesting and good, on the other side,  his work  Born in the USA and Tunnel of Love is interesting, but not good. What makes his part of his work interesting up to this record I have tried to make clear in the essay The River. A lot has been written in this forum about Mr. Springsteen's as a person, about money and greed, but I myself does not care at all: the only thing that interest me regarding Mr. Springsteen as a person, is what can say, that makes me think again about his work. His work is what we can learn from, not what he as a private person does or not does.

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