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3 hours ago, High As Hope said:

BBC sport website list Jessica on a list of 10 stars to follow at the Olympics.

Who are the other nine (supposed) “stars” related to? ;) 

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43 minutes ago, Frank said:

Why not understand the joke for yourself? (especially when a ;) was given)

Off on a tangent

What is the Swiss Olympic team's strengths

What do you guys excell at - im guessing feild evens but i have no idea

Do you row or kyack ?

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8 hours ago, Daisey Jeep said:

Off on a tangent

What is the Swiss Olympic team's strengths

What do you guys excell at - im guessing feild evens but i have no idea

Do you row or kyack ?

Well, I don’t think we excel in anything in particular when it comes to summer games. Most of the times we get surprised by a couple of athletes scoring medals in competitions nobody knew they were Olympic disciplines… ;)

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42 minutes ago, Frank said:

Well, I don’t think we excel in anything in particular when it comes to summer games. Most of the times we get surprised by a couple of athletes scoring medals in competitions nobody knew they were Olympic disciplines… ;)

Well Ill keep an eye out for you guys

Good luck Switzerland 

Stay safe athletes 

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11 hours ago, Frank said:

Why not understand the joke for yourself? (especially when a ;) was given)

Explain your "joke" then.  You seemed to be sneering at somebody.

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4 minutes ago, Rizla said:

Explain your "joke" then.  You seemed to be sneering at somebody.

I took it to be a tongue-in-cheek reference to those who may think that Jessica got there because of her dad's fame. He's asking if the others have famous parents? As a joke.

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1 minute ago, Eileen said:

I took it to be a tongue-in-cheek reference to those who may think that Jessica got there because of her dad's fame. He's asking if the others have famous parents? As a joke.

But he also questions their right to be described as stars

"the other nine (supposed) “stars” "

when the list includes people like Novak Djokovic :rolleyes:
Just comes over to me as all-round sneering.

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2 hours ago, Rizla said:

But he also questions their right to be described as stars

"the other nine (supposed) “stars” "

when the list includes people like Novak Djokovic :rolleyes:
Just comes over to me as all-round sneering.

Come on, now. Let’s relax. I wasn’t steering at anybody. Just quoting ‘High as a a hope’ line without seeing the list. I thought BBC were introducing their audience to potential Olympic medalists yet to be discovered. Those ten athletes (or some of them, at least) are indeed as stars as one can get, but unless you are one of them (or closely related to), there’s no need to feel crossed for a casual joke on a music site.

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1 hour ago, Frank said:

Come on, now. Let’s relax. I wasn’t steering at anybody. Just quoting ‘High as a a hope’ line without seeing the list. I thought BBC were introducing their audience to potential Olympic medalists yet to be discovered. Those ten athletes (or some of them, at least) are indeed as stars as one can get, but unless you are one of them (or closely related to), there’s no need to feel crossed for a casual joke on a music site.

Still not getting your "joke".  But since you hadn't bothered to look at the article, it's no wonder it made no sense.

But I am indeed tired of people sniping at the Springsteens over Jessica's chosen career.  She has worked very hard to reach the level she has achieved.  You cannot buy that with money.  It takes a lot of practice, hard work and, yes, talent. 

It doesn't matter how much you spend on a horse, success isn't guaranteed and nor is the perfect partnership with the rider.   It does tend to be a sport for the more well-off, but talent can still find sponsorship and the top riders don't always own the horses they ride.

The sneering, sniping and unfunny jokes are rooted in envy and ignorance.  It's a blessing that we have JimCT around on this forum to share his experience of equestrian sport and educate us.

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33 minutes ago, Rizla said:

Still not getting your "joke".  But since you hadn't bothered to look at the article, it's no wonder it made no sense.

But I am indeed tired of people sniping at the Springsteens over Jessica's chosen career.  She has worked very hard to reach the level she has achieved.  You cannot buy that with money.  It takes a lot of practice, hard work and, yes, talent. 

It doesn't matter how much you spend on a horse, success isn't guaranteed and nor is the perfect partnership with the rider.   It does tend to be a sport for the more well-off, but talent can still find sponsorship and the top riders don't always own the horses they ride.

The sneering, sniping and unfunny jokes are rooted in envy and ignorance.  It's a blessing that we have JimCT around on this forum to share his experience of equestrian sport and educate us.

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On 7/18/2021 at 9:07 AM, Rizla said:

Still not getting your "joke".  But since you hadn't bothered to look at the article, it's no wonder it made no sense.

But I am indeed tired of people sniping at the Springsteens over Jessica's chosen career.  She has worked very hard to reach the level she has achieved.  You cannot buy that with money.  It takes a lot of practice, hard work and, yes, talent. 

It doesn't matter how much you spend on a horse, success isn't guaranteed and nor is the perfect partnership with the rider.   It does tend to be a sport for the more well-off, but talent can still find sponsorship and the top riders don't always own the horses they ride.

The sneering, sniping and unfunny jokes are rooted in envy and ignorance.  It's a blessing that we have JimCT around on this forum to share his experience of equestrian sport and educate us.

I haven’t looked at the article either. Is it an article on 10 stars to check out, such as Djokovic, or 10 familiar names that’ll be interesting catch a glimpse of, like Djokovic and Springsteen? Is Jessica Springsteen considered the best rider on the US equestrian team? I saw the 4 on the team interviewed on the Today Show this morning and I didn’t get the impression she was the star of the team but I honestly have no idea.

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2 hours ago, Jertucky said:

I haven’t looked at the article either. Is it an article on 10 stars to check out, such as Djokovic, or 10 familiar names that’ll be interesting catch a glimpse of, like Djokovic and Springsteen? Is Jessica Springsteen considered the best rider on the US equestrian team? I saw the 4 on the team interviewed on the Today Show this morning and I didn’t get the impression she was the star of the team but I honestly have no idea.

@JimCT is probably the best person to answer your question.

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4 hours ago, Jertucky said:

I haven’t looked at the article either. Is it an article on 10 stars to check out, such as Djokovic, or 10 familiar names that’ll be interesting catch a glimpse of, like Djokovic and Springsteen? Is Jessica Springsteen considered the best rider on the US equestrian team? I saw the 4 on the team interviewed on the Today Show this morning and I didn’t get the impression she was the star of the team but I honestly have no idea.

 

1 hour ago, Rizla said:

@JimCT is probably the best person to answer your question.

Of those four she's the least experienced, and I'd probably rate her fourth, a priori. Bur, I haven't seen her and this horse in the ring in over a year. Form counts for a lot in this sport, how the partnership is performing now. The sport is in the ring with two living creatures who can only communicate through squeezes of the legs, gentle movements of the hands, a shifting of the body weight. By all accounts, and her results, she and Don Juan are going really well right now.

McLain Ward is probably the best American rider, has been for years and will be for years. He's entrancing to watch - he can ride all different kinds of horses and get the best from them. He has developed a proven business model with strong sponsors and even the occasional high visibility student. But I have zero knowledge of this horse - only that McLain can choose from several to make his #1, and this is the one he choose this season.

Kent is super-talented: he turned pro at 18, just over 20 years ago. If any US rider can challenge McLain on horse after horse, year after year, Kent would be on that list. I think he got the ride on Gazelle 4-5 years ago, and they have been very successful all over the US, Canada, and Europe. A jump off between McLain and Kent is truly something to behold, as both are lightning fast. He's developed strong sponsors and he consistently has excellent horses that he makes better.

Laura is also a seasoned professional, who has ridden for our Olympic team in Sydney and Hong Kong. In HK she rode Cedric, a small beautiful gray with a huge heart, who comes from some of my favorite Holsteiner breeding lines. We would always cheer for them here. She's been at the highest level for 30 years (she was an alternate for Barcelona).

Jess has been at this level less than 10 years. She rides for Frank McCourt and his new wife, but I don't know the extent of that sponsorship. This horse she bought a few years ago from a Belgian rider, and she's evidently developed it well and built a strong partnership. She's competed on the top circuits for many years, with great results. She's ridden for the national team in many events, and won big individual honors. Just because this is her first Olympic games doesn't mean she doesn't belong: she absolutely does. She will hold her end up, I expect.

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1 hour ago, JimCT said:

two living creatures who can only communicate through squeezes of the legs, gentle movements of the hands, a shifting of the body weight

I think you missed your calling as a romance novelist!

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41 minutes ago, JoanFontaine said:

Hey Jim, do you think Jessica would've made the team if Beezie Madden hadn't withdrawn?  

Certainly Beezie has a long and glorious history representing the US. And Abigail Wexner is a sponsor any pro would be grateful to have - her barn has been full of top quality horses, and she has improved every one of them while under her saddle. She and John have trained horses and riders with great success. But apparently the horse wasn't up to it, which implies to me that Jess would have gotten the spot anyway, on merit. Beezie did what was best for the horse. The hallmark of a classic horseman/woman, putting the welfare of the animal ahead of personal ambition.

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11 minutes ago, JudgeBrown said:

I was thinking this was a slightly softer version of verse 2 of BTR

There will be no wrapping your legs around my velvet strap-on

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2 hours ago, JimCT said:

 

Of those four she's the least experienced, and I'd probably rate her fourth, a priori. Bur, I haven't seen her and this horse in the ring in over a year. Form counts for a lot in this sport, how the partnership is performing now. The sport is in the ring with two living creatures who can only communicate through squeezes of the legs, gentle movements of the hands, a shifting of the body weight. By all accounts, and her results, she and Don Juan are going really well right now.

McLain Ward is probably the best American rider, has been for years and will be for years. He's entrancing to watch - he can ride all different kinds of horses and get the best from them. He has developed a proven business model with strong sponsors and even the occasional high visibility student. But I have zero knowledge of this horse - only that McLain can choose from several to make his #1, and this is the one he choose this season.

Kent is super-talented: he turned pro at 18, just over 20 years ago. If any US rider can challenge McLain on horse after horse, year after year, Kent would be on that list. I think he got the ride on Gazelle 4-5 years ago, and they have been very successful all over the US, Canada, and Europe. A jump off between McLain and Kent is truly something to behold, as both are lightning fast. He's developed strong sponsors and he consistently has excellent horses that he makes better.

Laura is also a seasoned professional, who has ridden for our Olympic team in Sydney and Hong Kong. In HK she rode Cedric, a small beautiful gray with a huge heart, who comes from some of my favorite Holsteiner breeding lines. We would always cheer for them here. She's been at the highest level for 30 years (she was an alternate for Barcelona).

Jess has been at this level less than 10 years. She rides for Frank McCourt and his new wife, but I don't know the extent of that sponsorship. This horse she bought a few years ago from a Belgian rider, and she's evidently developed it well and built a strong partnership. She's competed on the top circuits for many years, with great results. She's ridden for the national team in many events, and won big individual honors. Just because this is her first Olympic games doesn't mean she doesn't belong: she absolutely does. She will hold her end up, I expect.

That’s fantastic, thanks!

For the record, I wasn’t questioning whether she belonged on the team or not. I live in horse country and know the amount of hard work these guys and gals put in. I didn’t think they would throw somebody in there just for name recognition. What I was questioning was whether or not she was one of the 10 Olympians to watch because she is one of the ten best competing in an event or because she is one of the ten most recognizable names, and I think you answered that. I appreciate it.

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11 hours ago, JimCT said:

 

Of those four she's the least experienced, and I'd probably rate her fourth, a priori. Bur, I haven't seen her and this horse in the ring in over a year. Form counts for a lot in this sport, how the partnership is performing now. The sport is in the ring with two living creatures who can only communicate through squeezes of the legs, gentle movements of the hands, a shifting of the body weight. By all accounts, and her results, she and Don Juan are going really well right now.

McLain Ward is probably the best American rider, has been for years and will be for years. He's entrancing to watch - he can ride all different kinds of horses and get the best from them. He has developed a proven business model with strong sponsors and even the occasional high visibility student. But I have zero knowledge of this horse - only that McLain can choose from several to make his #1, and this is the one he choose this season.

Kent is super-talented: he turned pro at 18, just over 20 years ago. If any US rider can challenge McLain on horse after horse, year after year, Kent would be on that list. I think he got the ride on Gazelle 4-5 years ago, and they have been very successful all over the US, Canada, and Europe. A jump off between McLain and Kent is truly something to behold, as both are lightning fast. He's developed strong sponsors and he consistently has excellent horses that he makes better.

Laura is also a seasoned professional, who has ridden for our Olympic team in Sydney and Hong Kong. In HK she rode Cedric, a small beautiful gray with a huge heart, who comes from some of my favorite Holsteiner breeding lines. We would always cheer for them here. She's been at the highest level for 30 years (she was an alternate for Barcelona).

Jess has been at this level less than 10 years. She rides for Frank McCourt and his new wife, but I don't know the extent of that sponsorship. This horse she bought a few years ago from a Belgian rider, and she's evidently developed it well and built a strong partnership. She's competed on the top circuits for many years, with great results. She's ridden for the national team in many events, and won big individual honors. Just because this is her first Olympic games doesn't mean she doesn't belong: she absolutely does. She will hold her end up, I expect.

 

10 hours ago, JoanFontaine said:

Hey Jim, do you think Jessica would've made the team if Beezie Madden hadn't withdrawn?  

Just to add: back in 2014 at the American Gold Cup, $250k Grand Prix with a long history and many distinguished winners, held at Old Salem Farm in Westchester County, one of the most beautiful venues we have here IMO. It's literally 5 minutes down the road from McLain's farm, Laura Kraut was there (and Jess's trainer at the time ;)). Jess rode Vindicat W, the horse she bought from Peter Charles (GBR) after the 2012 Olympics. Jess beat them all - 7 years ago! She's very, very good - watch below

 

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